[NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list

george w. kennie geobet at gis.net
Fri May 16 04:45:52 AKDT 2008


Don't fret !   It'll be back for sure !


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hoard 
  To: General pattern discussion 
  Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list


  Ya know, I think we should also discuss adopting the FAI rules for scoring takeoff and landings in the AMA classes . . .


  On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:11 AM, <Snaproll4 at aol.com> wrote:

    I agree with Lance on both points.  Jim is a great guy who passionately supports pattern and would never come down hard on anyone.  The similarities between NSRCA and public radio are obvious.  This list is not free.  There is no advertising and it is supported by the dues and volunteerism of the members.

    In order to take the heat off of Jim, I 'm going to start a thread on the definition of a snap roll or mandatory class advancement.

    Steve Miller  #673

    In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:13:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, patterndude at tx.rr.com writes:
      I have to put in my small $.02 for anyone still following this thread. 
      Having only an impression of a person by email is limited and we all bear 
      this risk when we make statements.  Jim Quinn, in person, is a super 
      friendly, gracious nice guy.  He came to the Nats as an observer and became 
      the daily reporter and did a great job.  His work as an officer is for all 
      our benefit.  I'm sure he is apalled at the larger response that his 
      comments received and would reword them if he could.  I haven't talked to 
      Jim about this but back when I was an officer he and I chatted often.  I 
      know he is simply promoting membership and reminding people of the 
      similarities between this and public radio.  Our organization needs to pay 
      its way so if you are getting value from the "list" or attending contests or 
      whatever, then for the price of a throttle servo you can do your part to 
      support the organization.

      I agree the way he did it this one time was not ideal,but since most people 
      don't know Jim I thought someone had to make a plea to all to let this go. 
      He's too modest to become defensive himself.

      --Lance
      Former VP

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Daniel McLalin" <dmclalin at gmail.com>
      To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
      Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:50 AM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker about who can use the list


      > You must all realize that there are a lot of people following these
      > emails who have not ever asked a question or comment AND who are not
      > NSRCA members.  I am an example of this.  I have been on the e-mail
      > mailing list for over 2 years and have used all of your valuable
      > information to educate myself. I am not a member of NSRCA because I am
      > still learning to fly and am not ready to participate in any pattern
      > competitions.  I am an AMA member.
      >
      > I have met several of you at pattern competitions and have always been
      > impressed on how friendly and anxious you are at helping us newbees
      > and welcoming our interest in not just pattern but RC itself.
      >
      > This is the first time I have ever come across a negative comment from
      > a member to a non-member (that wasn't in jest - of course). I was
      > surprised for sure but not put off by Jim Quinn's response to Colin.
      >
      > So I repeat, many people read your comments.  Saying something in text
      > stays out there for a very long time.
      >
      > My 2 cents.
      >
      > Dan McLalin
      >
      > On 5/13/08, Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net> wrote:
      >> John is correct.  For MANY years, AMA ran the R/C Aerobatics events
      >> (often badly).  When NSRCA petitioned to run our events, AMA agreed
      >> reluctantly.  However after the first couple of Nats, AMA got used to
      >> it and encouraged other SIGs to run their events.  Now I don't think
      >> any events are run by AMA personnel.  However, it should be
      >> recognized that the Nats are an AMA event and we just administer our
      >> events in accordance with AMA rules.
      >>
      >> Ron Van Putte
      >>
      >> On May 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, John Ferrell wrote:
      >>
      >> > The Nats are not an NSRCA event. The Nats are an AMA event.
      >> > I expect most of those who work so hard at the Nats are members of
      >> > both AMA
      >> > and NSRCA it is important that we not lose track of who pays what
      >> > bills and
      >> > who provides what resources...
      >> >
      >> > John Ferrell    W8CCW
      >> >
      >> > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
      >> > nothing." -- Edmund Burke
      >> > http://DixieNC.US
      >> >
      >> >
      >> >> I think it would be a shame if the NSRCA got frustrated and locked
      >> >> out
      >> >> foreigners from the US Nats, the K-Factor, the NSRCA email list etc.
      >> >> All of us directly and indirectly benefit from this organization
      >> >> and we
      >> >> should support if our situations allow.
      >> >>
      >> >> So I encourage all the Canadians reading this list who are not
      >> >> members
      >> >> to support the NSRCA.
      >> >>
      >> >> Chad
      >> >
      >> >
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