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<A title=khoard@gmail.com href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">Keith Hoard</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 16, 2008 8:31 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us
bicker about who can use the list</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Ya know, I think we should also discuss adopting the FAI rules
for scoring takeoff and landings in the AMA classes . . .<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:11 AM, <<A
href="mailto:Snaproll4@aol.com">Snaproll4@aol.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV>I agree with Lance on both points. Jim is a great guy who
passionately supports pattern and would never come down hard on
anyone. The similarities between NSRCA and public radio are
obvious. This list is not free. There is no advertising and it
is supported by the dues and volunteerism of the members.</DIV>
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<DIV>In order to take the heat off of Jim, I 'm going to start a thread on
the definition of a snap roll or mandatory class advancement.</DIV>
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<DIV>Steve Miller #673</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:13:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, <A
href="mailto:patterndude@tx.rr.com" target=_blank>patterndude@tx.rr.com</A>
writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>I
have to put in my small $.02 for anyone still following this thread.
<BR>Having only an impression of a person by email is limited and we all
bear <BR>this risk when we make statements. Jim Quinn, in person, is
a super <BR>friendly, gracious nice guy. He came to the Nats as an
observer and became <BR>the daily reporter and did a great job. His
work as an officer is for all <BR>our benefit. I'm sure he is
apalled at the larger response that his <BR>comments received and would
reword them if he could. I haven't talked to <BR>Jim about this but
back when I was an officer he and I chatted often. I <BR>know he is
simply promoting membership and reminding people of the <BR>similarities
between this and public radio. Our organization needs to pay <BR>its
way so if you are getting value from the "list" or attending contests or
<BR>whatever, then for the price of a throttle servo you can do your part
to <BR>support the organization.<BR><BR>I agree the way he did it this one
time was not ideal,but since most people <BR>don't know Jim I thought
someone had to make a plea to all to let this go. <BR>He's too modest to
become defensive himself.<BR><BR>--Lance<BR>Former VP<BR><BR>-----
Original Message ----- <BR>From: "Daniel McLalin" <<A
href="mailto:dmclalin@gmail.com"
target=_blank>dmclalin@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: "General pattern
discussion" <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent: Wednesday,
May 14, 2008 9:50 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Let us bicker
about who can use the list<BR><BR><BR>> You must all realize that there
are a lot of people following these<BR>> emails who have not ever asked
a question or comment AND who are not<BR>> NSRCA members. I am an
example of this. I have been on the e-mail<BR>> mailing list for
over 2 years and have used all of your valuable<BR>> information to
educate myself. I am not a member of NSRCA because I am<BR>> still
learning to fly and am not ready to participate in any pattern<BR>>
competitions. I am an AMA member.<BR>><BR>> I have met several
of you at pattern competitions and have always been<BR>> impressed on
how friendly and anxious you are at helping us newbees<BR>> and
welcoming our interest in not just pattern but RC itself.<BR>><BR>>
This is the first time I have ever come across a negative comment
from<BR>> a member to a non-member (that wasn't in jest - of course). I
was<BR>> surprised for sure but not put off by Jim Quinn's response to
Colin.<BR>><BR>> So I repeat, many people read your comments.
Saying something in text<BR>> stays out there for a very long
time.<BR>><BR>> My 2 cents.<BR>><BR>> Dan
McLalin<BR>><BR>> On 5/13/08, Ron Van Putte <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target=_blank>vanputte@cox.net</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> John is correct. For MANY years, AMA ran the R/C
Aerobatics events<BR>>> (often badly). When NSRCA petitioned
to run our events, AMA agreed<BR>>> reluctantly. However after
the first couple of Nats, AMA got used to<BR>>> it and encouraged
other SIGs to run their events. Now I don't think<BR>>> any
events are run by AMA personnel. However, it should be<BR>>>
recognized that the Nats are an AMA event and we just administer
our<BR>>> events in accordance with AMA
rules.<BR>>><BR>>> Ron Van Putte<BR>>><BR>>> On
May 13, 2008, at 3:07 PM, John Ferrell wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> >
The Nats are not an NSRCA event. The Nats are an AMA event.<BR>>>
> I expect most of those who work so hard at the Nats are members
of<BR>>> > both AMA<BR>>> > and NSRCA it is important
that we not lose track of who pays what<BR>>> > bills
and<BR>>> > who provides what resources...<BR>>>
><BR>>> > John Ferrell W8CCW<BR>>>
><BR>>> > "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is
for good men to do<BR>>> > nothing." -- Edmund Burke<BR>>>
> <A href="http://DixieNC.US"
target=_blank>http://DixieNC.US</A><BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> >> I think it would be a shame if the NSRCA got
frustrated and locked<BR>>> >> out<BR>>> >>
foreigners from the US Nats, the K-Factor, the NSRCA email list
etc.<BR>>> >> All of us directly and indirectly benefit from
this organization<BR>>> >> and we<BR>>> >> should
support if our situations allow.<BR>>> >><BR>>> >>
So I encourage all the Canadians reading this list who are not<BR>>>
>> members<BR>>> >> to support the NSRCA.<BR>>>
>><BR>>> >> Chad<BR>>> ><BR>>>
><BR>>> >
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