[NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming

Karl G. Mueller kgamueller at rogers.com
Tue Mar 18 06:47:15 AKDT 2008


Vicente,

"WC" actually is the short form of "Water Closet".
That's what the early Toilets were called.

Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: vicenterc at comcast.net
  To: adriancwong at earthlink.net ; NSRCA Mailing List
  Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming


  WC = toilet. I wonder how many went and check.

  --
  Vicente "Vince" Bortone

    -------------- Original message -------------- 
    From: adriancwong at earthlink.net
    "WC", huh? I haven't heard that word since I've moved back from Hong
Kong in the early 90's.

    May be I should try the knife edge on a vertical down line, instead of
doing it horizontally?



      -----Original Message----- 
      From: vicenterc at comcast.net
      Sent: Mar 17, 2008 7:00 PM
      To: adriancwong at earthlink.net, NSRCA Mailing List
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming


      That is called Coriolis accerelation.  That is why the water closets
flush to the right in the North hemisphere and to the left in the South
hemisphere (looking the water closet from above).  If going down straight
you are close to the ecuator.  If this do not happens as described the water
closet needs to be trimmed.

      --
      Vicente "Vince" Bortone

        -------------- Original message -------------- 
        From: adriancwong at earthlink.net
        I think Bryan is hiding in his wind tunnel trying to duplicate the
same condition.

        I don't think it was my digits. It's probably between the earth's
gravitational pull and soething in the northern hemisphere. I bet the plane
will do the exact opposite if I fly it in Australia ... .-)



          -----Original Message----- 
          From: Derek Koopowitz
          Sent: Mar 17, 2008 3:36 PM
          To: NSRCA Mailing List
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming


          I think he wishes it was his thumbs... :)

          The push to the belly was more than the pull to the canopy... the
pull was very slight.


          On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 3:24 PM, krishlan fitzsimmons
<homeremodeling2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

            I was going to tell Adrian his thumbs cause this..
            Just kidding of course Adrian..

            C


            Nat Penton <natpenton at centurytel.net> wrote:
              Where is Bryan when you need him

              ----- Original Message ----- 
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              Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:17 PM
              Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming


              > Bryan,
              >
              > What cause the plane to pull to the belly on one rudder, and
to the canopy
              > on the other rudder during knife edge.
              >
              > Thx,
              >
              > Adrian
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              >>From: shinden1 at cox.net
              >>Sent: Mar 16, 2008 7:17 PM
              >>To: NSRCA Mailing List

              >>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] triangulation trimming
              >>
              >>Lance you need to find out exactly where the wing inc . is.
              >>I think if you move your c/g back a little it will help take
some of the
              >>up trim out But you prob need more pos inc, in the wing so
we need to know
              >>where you are at right now to determine exactly where to go
              >>Bryan


              >>---- Lance Van Nostrand wrote:
              >>> Bryan,
              >>>
              >>> The discussion list moves faster than I can try this stuff
out. Too bad
              >>> I
              >>> have to work...
              >>>
              >>> I first only moved my CG forward significantly and have
improved overall
              >>> tracking. It was windy Saturday and wind penetration were
good.
              >>> Bryan's
              >>> suggestion was correct on CG movement to make this
improvement. However
              >>> with the forward CG (and resultant uptrim) it pulls to the
canopy
              >>> slightly
              >>> on downlines. At this point I noticed that during inverted
flight,
              >>> rudder
              >>> input caused a pull to the belly (plane rose). This was
weird. I then
              >>> raised the incidence 2 turns and it fixed the inverted
flight problem
              >>> but it
              >>> seemed to make the canopy pul! l worse . Interestingly, KE
flight was not
              >>> noticeably affected.
              >>>
              >>> The other affect is that inverted 45 downlines drop toward
earth faster
              >>> than
              >>> upright 45s (which track nicely). Before this change, both
45s were
              >>> fine.
              >>>
              >>> Is this the expectation?
              >>>
              >>> --Lance
              >>>
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