[NSRCA-discussion] Servo question

J N Hiller jnhiller at earthlink.net
Mon Jul 7 10:03:06 AKDT 2008


You can still reverse some servos that way.
Jim H

-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Stuart Chale
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 6:49 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Servo question

I still have some of those pots, wipers and probably a capsule of lube from
the Ace and Kraft days.  I think the carbon button wipers were before the
ones with several "fingers.  Servo reversing also involved switching two
motor wires and the outside pot wires.  That was if you couldn't rearrange
the linkage to the other side of the servo.
Stuart

glmiller3 at suddenlink.net <mailto:glmiller3 at suddenlink.net>  wrote:
Yeah, Ron,

Were those the ones with a little piece of carbon at the wiper tip?  I
remember that now!

G
---- Ron Van Putte  <vanputte at cox.net> <mailto:vanputte at cox.net>  wrote:

=============
And the Giezendanner special pot wipers we imported from Switzerland
to make them last longer.  I long for those good old times NOT.

Ron VP

On Jul 5, 2008, at 6:44 PM,  <glmiller3 at suddenlink.net>
<mailto:glmiller3 at suddenlink.net>  wrote:


Ah, Jon,

I remember changing my servo pots every 30-50 flights as a routine
maintenance procedure....with the old Kraft Signature set.<G>

G
---- Jon Lowe  <jonlowe at aol.com> <mailto:jonlowe at aol.com>  wrote:

=============

 3421's have the pot shaft driven directly by the output shaft.? If
you reach down thru the hole for the servo arm screw with a
jewelers screwdriver, there is a slot that can be used to adjust
centering of the pot which is a press fit into the gear.? The pot
shaft may have slipped in the output gear.? Pot shaft could be
binding, or the output gear may be cracked internally allowing the
shaft to slip. You could just need a new output gear.? I'd try
adjusting it to see how easy it slips.? A VERY small movement of
the pot shaft will affect centering in a BIG way, so be careful.?
Perhaps, the pot may also be coming apart or wearing badly
internally, affecting centering.? Definitely determine the cause or
send it back to have at least the pot replaced, along with the gears.

Years ago, many servo pots were driven like this, and didn't caouse
a problem except for servo pot wear.? Replacing pots after 25
flights was not all that uncommon.? Most (all) larger servo pots
anymore are indirect drive to help prevent pot wear.? 3421 is
probably just too small to do an indirect drive.





Jon Lowe






-----Original Message-----
From: chris moon  <cjm767driver at hotmail.com>
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Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:47 pm
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Servo question













Ok, here is a brain teaser for you experts.

On Sunday 2 weeks ago I went out flying maybe 4-5 flights. All was
fine.  When I got to the flying site on Friday for the Lake City
contest, I made a practice flight and the plane was climbing like mad.
I got it down and found that 1 of the elevator halves was about
3/8" up
from the other.  Before the flight, I checked the operation of the
elevators and they were moving correctly but I don't remember
specifically if I paid any attention to if they were centered
perfectly.  Now, nothing was changed between the the last time I flew
and this flight.  The transmitter was on the right model.  The linkage
had not slipped, nor had the control horn bent.  The control surface
showed no sign of trauma from a severe bump possibly causing a
stripped
gear.  The servo (JR 3421sa) was functioning 100% normally it was just
the center had changed on it's own.  I removed the servo arm (alum
- not
stripped either) and moved it one spline and adjusted the sub trim
slightly and flew a few test flights and the contest with no problems.
Now at home, I removed the servo to send it back and inspected it and
found nothing abnormal.  The gears all look fine. Here is what I have
eliminated:

servo arm - not stripped
servo gears - not stripped
pushrod and linkage - no play and not slipped on the clevis threads
transmitter - correct model selected and could not be elevator pot in
transmitter since it did not affect the other elevator servo's
centering

I am sending it back for a check up but just was wondering if
anyone has
had any similar experience ever or if they have any possible causes.

Thanks

Chris







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