[NSRCA-discussion] New Planes

vicenterc at comcast.net vicenterc at comcast.net
Mon Jan 14 03:37:43 AKST 2008


When I had the mid-air at the Nats, I was able to install the back up Abbra wings with no trim adjustments.  The only problem was me.  I was so concerned to have a mid-air again that I was looking the other plane more than mine.  I have 3 Abbras now and I can flip flop any wings or elevators from one to another with no problem.  

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Vicente "Vince" Bortone

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From: brian young <brian_w_young at yahoo.com> 

It is difficult to get a kit is the problem. If you want a largely prebuilt for 800-1500$ your choices are very limited. So untwisting the Impacts rudder I had was no big deal, I was told the Impacts had a wing twist but never confirmed it. Problems with stab fit on my Impact were quickly addressed by mfr. replacing the stabs. .

The last 2 planes I have received have been great quality at the price, the Abbra and Leviosa. As  Vince mentions an incidence problem with his that is an easy fix.

I know of a few planes that had problems with wings and mismatched ailerons among other things and  know they were repaired rather than return the kits.

Maybe Ive been lucky. 

Brian

chris moon <cjm767driver at hotmail.com> wrote:
Since it has been so quiet, I want to stir the pot and ask everyone why 
it is that we as a group accept lots of poor quality kits and just shrug 
it off? I spoke with 2 people this weekend who are building different 
planes and both are unhappy with the quality of the kits. Pieces are 
warped and twisted and tubes misaligned and we just say..."oh well, I'll 
fix it". One guy said something to the effect that well, it was ONLY 
$1,000.00!!!! We are way too lenient on accepting cruddy quality and 
just fixing it. I know there are not a lot of vendors out there, but we 
are happy to pay just $1,000 and get a twisted plane in return?? I was 
told one popular plane that many guys now have has 5 DEGREES of down 
thrust mistakenly molded into the fuse and everyone just says, oh well, 
I'll fix it. Don't know about you, but $1,000 is a lot of dough to me, 
and to happily pay for a cruddy product in return is just wrong. I 
still remember that famous email from one mfg that basically said that 
the person complaining about his wing was twisted should be HAPPY that 
it was twisted because famous pilot XX flew the plane too and he won the 
NATS with it. The problem is that we don't as a group send the junk back 
and demand that we get our money's worth. Nobody expects a perfect kit 
without any problems at all, but aren't we too lenient? Maybe we need 
to just buy kits like Mike's Black Magic and then we can only blame 
ourselves if it comes out crooked.
Sorry, but I really feel that we are being taken advantage of due to the 
limited supply of planes available and we are told to take it or leave it.

Ok, I feel better now.

Chris




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