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<DIV>When I had the mid-air at the Nats, I was able to install the back up Abbra wings with no trim adjustments. The only problem was me. I was so concerned to have a mid-air again that I was looking the other plane more than mine. I have 3 Abbras now and I can flip flop any wings or elevators from one to another with no problem. </DIV>
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<DIV>It is difficult to get a kit is the problem. If you want a largely prebuilt for 800-1500$ your choices are very limited. So untwisting the Impacts rudder I had was no big deal, I was told the Impacts had a wing twist but never confirmed it. Problems with stab fit on my Impact were quickly addressed by mfr. replacing the stabs. .</DIV>
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<DIV>The last 2 planes I have received have been great quality at the price, the Abbra and Leviosa. As Vince mentions an incidence problem with his that is an easy fix.</DIV>
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<DIV>I know of a few planes that had problems with wings and mismatched ailerons among other things and know they were repaired rather than return the kits.</DIV>
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<DIV>Maybe Ive been lucky. </DIV>
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<DIV>Brian<BR><BR><B><I>chris moon <cjm767driver@hotmail.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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Since it has been so quiet, I want to stir the pot and ask everyone why <BR>it is that we as a group accept lots of poor quality kits and just shrug <BR>it off? I spoke with 2 people this weekend who are building different <BR>planes and both are unhappy with the quality of the kits. Pieces are <BR>warped and twisted and tubes misaligned and we just say..."oh well, I'll <BR>fix it". One guy said something to the effect that well, it was ONLY <BR>$1,000.00!!!! We are way too lenient on accepting cruddy quality and <BR>just fixing it. I know there are not a lot of vendors out there, but we <BR>are happy to pay just $1,000 and get a twisted plane in return?? I was <BR>told one popular plane that many guys now have has 5 DEGREES of down <BR>thrust mistakenly molded into the fuse and everyone just says, oh well, <BR>I'll fix it. Don't know about you, but $1,000 is a lot of dough to me, <BR>and to happily pay for a cruddy product in return is just wrong. I <BR>still remember that famous
email from one mfg that basically said that <BR>the person complaining about his wing was twisted should be HAPPY that <BR>it was twisted because famous pilot XX flew the plane too and he won the <BR>NATS with it. The problem is that we don't as a group send the junk back <BR>and demand that we get our money's worth. Nobody expects a perfect kit <BR>without any problems at all, but aren't we too lenient? Maybe we need <BR>to just buy kits like Mike's Black Magic and then we can only blame <BR>ourselves if it comes out crooked.<BR>Sorry, but I really feel that we are being taken advantage of due to the <BR>limited supply of planes available and we are told to take it or leave it.<BR><BR>Ok, I feel better now.<BR><BR>Chris<BR><BR><BR>
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