[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

[Dave]

Absolutely the EMC - by far the biggest plane for it's time, and uncanny (to
say the least) just how closely critical dimensions matched subsequent Euro
"guppies".

 

Elan also needs to be mentioned - the super long tail moment set a new
standard for groove in pitch.

 

Regards,

 

Dave 

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ed Miller
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:51 PM
To: General pattern discussion
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

 

Hanson's EMC2, the first true production "guppy".  Still have one that I
haven't flown since June this year and still have a kit.  

Ed M. 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Pattrnflyr at aol.com 

To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 

Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 6:45 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

 

BTW, I do know that the Typhoon stuff was Ron Chidgey.  He and Hanson had
some good stuff at the beginning of turnaround.

 

In a message dated 12/15/2008 4:13:48 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
Pattrnflyr at aol.com writes:

How about almost anything by Dick Hanson?  I am still flying a Typhoon 909
and I love it.

 

In a message dated 12/15/2008 1:26:14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
adriancwong at earthlink.net writes:

Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli

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>From: billglaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Dec 15, 2008 3:02 PM
>To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) , and 
>one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's Smog Hog, 
>(note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas.  Good 
>flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn't compare
to 
>the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said:  "I don't know what the big deal 
>is; it's just a low-wing Smog Hog."  Maybe.  But, it sure revolutionized
the 
>contest world, at the time.  If you wanted to win, you had one.  Period.
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>Bill Glaze
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>From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>
>To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
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>> Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane.  Everything up 
>> until then had been a high wing airplane.
>> Orion- by Ed Kasmirski  first really high performance pattern plane
>> Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. At
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>> point, everyone had built a "modified" Taurus.  The Top Flight kit, 
>> excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.
>> The Phoenix 1-8 series.  Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but it really 
>> established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7 and

>> 8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including Dave Brown, Mike

>> McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10, because 
>> they were never kitted, and were very early turn around style airplanes. 
>> I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.
>> I have to agree with the Kaos.  It was "everymans" pattern plane, and 
>> still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.
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>> Jon Lowe
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 1:00 pm
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>> From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)" <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>
>> To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Monda
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>> years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been
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