[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Mon Dec 15 13:33:12 AKST 2008

Regarding Dean's belt drive--we were all also trying to be quiet along with figuring out 'turnaround' pattern.  He had this hand carved wide EIGHTEEN inch prop(he called it a club, I think--HUGE in those days) on it.  Was the talk of the contest that year.  Von Linsowe showed up with some huge, slow thing--can't remember its name--and around then, Frac had some kind of larger, but nice flying bipe.  Lots of innovation just before the switch to 2M...  and then I took a ten year sabbatical.....
RS

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:55:17 -0800From: mups1953 at yahoo.comTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

 Norm Page's Mach1.  They were ballistic for their time. The wing was revoulutionary. Mike--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Woodward, Jim (US SSA) <jim.woodward at baesystems.com> wrote:
From: Woodward, Jim (US SSA) <jim.woodward at baesystems.com>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designsTo: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 3:08 PM

What about the Japanese?  Was there a first Japanese plane that started to shape designs?  I remember Jerry talking about Dean’s belt drive plane one time.  That must have been revolutionary for sure.  

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Richard StricklandSent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:01 PMTo: cahochhalter at yahoo.com; NSRCA DISCUSSIONSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Bridi's UFO was right in there--but I think the Curare was just a little b/4..  Curare might have been the first with speed brakes...

Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:50:59 -0800From: cahochhalter at yahoo.comTo: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.orgSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Curare... was this the first anhedral stab?  --- On Mon, 12/15/08, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:

From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designsTo: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:39 PM
Also, Steve Helm's Bootlegger... 1st design with fully enclosed tuned pipesystem..  Tony Stillman, PresidentRadio South, Inc.139 Altama Connector, Box 322Brunswick, GA  315251-800-962-7802www.radiosouthrc.com  -----Original Message-----From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Ofadriancwong at earthlink.netSent: Monday, December 15, 2008 3:25 PMTo: General pattern discussionSubject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough
 Pattern plane designs  Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli  -----Original Message----->From: billglaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net>>Sent: Dec 15, 2008 3:02 PM>To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs>  >Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) , and >one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's SmogHog, >(note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas.  Good >flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn'tcompareto >the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said:  "I don't know what thebig deal >is; it's just a low-wing Smog
 Hog."  Maybe.  But, it surerevolutionizedthe >contest world, at the time.  If you wanted to win, you had one.  Period.>  >Bill Glaze>----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>>To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:41 PM>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs>  >  >> Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane.  Everythingup >> until then had been a high wing airplane.>> Orion- by Ed Kasmirski  first really high performance pattern plane>> Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. Atone >> point, everyone had
 built a "modified" Taurus.  The TopFlight kit, >> excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.>> The Phoenix 1-8 series.  Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but itreally >> established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7and  >> 8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including DaveBrown, Mike  >> McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10,because >> they were never kitted, and were very early turn around styleairplanes. >> I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.>> I have to agree with the Kaos.  It was "everymans" patternplane, and >> still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.>>
  >> Jon Lowe>>  >>  >> -----Original Message----->> From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>>> To: General pattern discussion<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>> Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 1:00 pm>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> Kaos>>  >>  >> Bob Kane>> getterflash at yahoo.com>>  >>  >>  >>  >>
  >>  >> ------------------------------------------------------------>> From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)"<jim.woodward at baesystems.com>>> To: General pattern discussion<nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>> Sent: Monda>> y, December 15, 2008 11:23:37 AM>> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> Hi Guys,>>  >>  >>
  >>  >>  >>  >> What do you think were some of the most breakthrough or pivotalpattern>> designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A couple>> years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been>> designed off the Smaragd platform. I think the PassPort is a heck of a>> plane.>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> What do you guys think have been some break-out designs over the>> years that have transformed pattern aircraft design? In the last nine>> years, I?d say the Smaragd was the most transformational plane.>>  >>  >>
  >>  >>  >>  >> Thanks,>>  >>  >>  >> Jim W.>>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >>  >> _______________________________________________>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list>> NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>>
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