[NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Mon Dec 15 12:48:20 AKST 2008

Probably the first one was Yoshioka's Blue Angel that he won the WC with.
Early on, the Japanese were more of a copy-cat designer, using the USA as
the design base (Phoenix and such) but later became innovators.  

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South, Inc.

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Brunswick, GA  31525

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Woodward, Jim
(US SSA)
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 4:08 PM
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What about the Japanese?  Was there a first Japanese plane that started to
shape designs?  I remember Jerry talking about Dean's belt drive plane one
time.  That must have been revolutionary for sure.  

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Richard
Strickland
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To: cahochhalter at yahoo.com; NSRCA DISCUSSION
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Bridi's UFO was right in there--but I think the Curare was just a little
b/4..  Curare might have been the first with speed brakes...

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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:50:59 -0800
From: cahochhalter at yahoo.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs

Curare... was this the first anhedral stab?  

--- On Mon, 12/15/08, Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com> wrote:

From: Tony <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Breakthrough Pattern plane designs
To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 8:39 PM

Also, Steve Helm's Bootlegger... 1st design with fully enclosed tuned pipe
system..

Tony Stillman, President
Radio South, Inc.
139 Altama Connector, Box 322
Brunswick, GA  31525
1-800-962-7802
www.radiosouthrc.com

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Phil Kraft's Kwik Fli

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>From: billglaze <billglaze at bellsouth.net>
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>Just before the Astro Hog, (designed by a friend of mine, Fred Dunn) , and 
>one of which I am currently building),there was Howard Bonner's Smog
Hog, 
>(note the name similarity) which won the 1956 Nationals in Dallas.  Good 
>flying airplane, for it's time, (good enough to win) but couldn't
compare
to 
>the Astro Hog, of which Fred always said:  "I don't know what the
big deal 
>is; it's just a low-wing Smog Hog."  Maybe.  But, it sure
revolutionized
the 
>contest world, at the time.  If you wanted to win, you had one.  Period.
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>Bill Glaze
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>From: "Jon Lowe" <jonlowe at aol.com>
>To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
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>> Astro Hog- 1st really successful low wing pattern plane.  Everything
up 
>> until then had been a high wing airplane.
>> Orion- by Ed Kasmirski  first really high performance pattern plane
>> Taurus- arguably one of the most built pattern planes of all times. At
one 
>> point, everyone had built a "modified" Taurus.  The Top
Flight kit, 
>> excellent for its day, helped to make it popular.
>> The Phoenix 1-8 series.  Yeah, I know I'm prejudiced, but it
really 
>> established moderately swept wings as a standard. The Phoenix 5, 6, 7
and

>> 8's were flown by most of the great US flyers, including Dave
Brown, Mike

>> McConville, and others. I'm not including the Phoenix 9 and 10,
because 
>> they were never kitted, and were very early turn around style
airplanes. 
>> I have a 9, and my dad has the only 10 ever built.
>> I have to agree with the Kaos.  It was "everymans" pattern
plane, and 
>> still is today with Tower Hobbies .46 style version.
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>> Jon Lowe
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>> From: Bob Kane <getterflash at yahoo.com>
>> To: General pattern discussion
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>> From: "Woodward, Jim (US SSA)"
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>> To: General pattern discussion
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>> Sent: Monda
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>> designs? When I started there the Prophecy was top dog. A couple
>> years later the Smaragd was designed. I see a lot of planes have been
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