[NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling

Pete Cosky pcosky at comcast.net
Tue Aug 12 14:28:34 AKDT 2008


No smell, just a wonderful aroma.....

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: DoWayne Gould 
  To: chad at f3acanada.org ; 'General pattern discussion' 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling


  You guys that carry your fuel planes inside the vehicle how do you deal with the smell? I generally keep my equipment in my truck unless it needs repair and when I open the hatch the odor is pretty strong.

  My next hauler I was thinking of a van type vehicle but not sure I want to smell my plane all the time.

  Dowayne


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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad Northeast
  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:14 PM
  To: General pattern discussion
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling

   

  Yes, I liked them as well in my previous Matrix, but some genious at Toyota decided that no slip rubber pads were just as good at restraining cargo....?

   

  I will arrive at the field in Lindsay on the 29th sometime with Ivan in his motorhome, so see you then.

   

  Chad

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe at ec.gc.ca>
  Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:10 am
  Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  To: chad at f3acanada.org, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>

  > That’s really too bad. It’s a great feature in my ’07 that I’ve 
  > always thought would be a benefit in a lot of other vehicles as 
  > well. See you in Lindsay at the trials…….
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > Tim
  > 
  > ________________________________
  > 
  > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
  > discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad Northeast
  > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:59 AM
  > To: General pattern discussion
  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > Hi Tim,
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear 
  > seats are gone in the '09 models.
  > 
  >  
  > 
  > Chad
  > 
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Pascoe,Tim [Burlington]" <Tim.Pascoe at ec.gc.ca>
  > Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27 am
  > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  > 
  > > I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with plug-
  > in 
  > > wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat (forward) and has 
  > a 
  > > handy little plastic tray on the back to catch the oil drips 
  > :) 
  > > Back seats also fold down flat individually, and the cargo 
  > area 
  > > and back of the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little 
  > > feature is the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running 
  > back 
  > > to front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You 
  > can 
  > > also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch 
  > > the prop between the front seats when you shoulder check!
  > > 
  > > Tim Pascoe 
  > > 
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-
  > > discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199 at aol.com
  > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM
  > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro at yahoo.com
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > 
  > > Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential 
  > candidate? 
  > > Seems 
  > > that it should have enough room for one 2 meter model  
  > > (plug in wings 
  > > only), if the front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at 
  > > this as an 
  > > alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the 
  > > mileage 
  > > was 50% better.
  > > 
  > > The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend 
  > in 
  > > FLA 
  > > used one for several years. With the 4-banger, he was getting 
  > > around 30 
  > > mpg.
  > > 
  > > I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim mentioned, it 
  > blew 
  > > its 
  > > gasket at around 75K. Very distasteful experience.
  > > 
  > > MattK
  > > 
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Ed Alt <ed_alt at hotmail.com>
  > > To: timsautopro at yahoo.com; General pattern discussion 
  > > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  > > Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:02 pm
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > 
  > > So if I get another one, I might achieve a 20% success 
  > rate?  
  > > Thanks 
  > > anyhow!
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700
  > > From: timsautopro at yahoo.com
  > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Ed, I work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't 
  > say 
  > > I 
  > > didn't warn you. :)
  > >  
  > > Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the 
  > doors, 
  > > btw has 
  > > it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it most likely doesn't 
  > > have the 
  > > 3.8 engine.
  > >  
  > >  
  > > By far the Scaryvans give far less trouble20than any other 
  > > minivan in 
  > > the same class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't 
  > > anything 
  > > different than a pickup with a camper shell.
  > >  
  > > Tim
  > > 
  > > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net> wrote:
  > > 
  > > From: Dave Burton <burtona at atmc.net>
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > To: "'General pattern discussion'" 
  > > <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
  > > Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 7:13 PM
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as much as I thought I 
  > > would 
  > > dislike a minivan I got to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some 
  > > electrical issues too but limited to interior lights, door 
  > > locks, and 
  > > power windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell 
  > the 
  > > computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so 
  > > all that 
  > > electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But with 150K it 
  > > still runs 
  > > great, burns no oil and gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy 
  > > the foot 
  > > is. I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, 
  > > luggage 
  > > for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to contest easily.
  > > Dave Burton
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org 
  > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of 
  > > Ed Alt
  > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM
  > > To: jpavlick at idseng.com; General pattern discussion
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > All valid points.  The on
  > > e thing I can't stand about the Dodge stuff 
  > > though, and I'm on my 4th and last one now, is that they 
  > > basically 
  > > can't get the electrical gremlins out of the car.  Every 
  > one of 
  > > mine 
  > > has acted as if it is haunted in some way.  I can explain 
  > each 
  > > of the 
  > > unique behaviors that my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just 
  > > shouldn't be 
  > > so.  It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but 
  > don't 
  > > say I 
  > > didn't warn you.  You get what you pay for.  Next 
  > time, I'm 
  > > looking at 
  > > a Mitsubishi.
  > > 
  > > Ed
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59 -0700
  > > From: jpavlick at idseng.com
  > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
  > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say that I love 
  > > mine too. 
  > > The mileage figures everyone is claiming are right on. On 
  > > my trip to 
  > > the NATs this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't 
  > > exactly 
  > > driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18. 
  > > PLENTY of 
  > > room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can fold the seats right 
  > > into the 
  > > floor. When you do this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood 
  > > inside 
  > > the van with the hatch closed.
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Add a hitch and you can tow an 18' big block Olds powered Jet 
  > > boat. Try 
  > > that with a Prius!
  > > 
  > > 
  > > As for the "soccer mom" image - just ride your Harley to work 
  > a 
  > > few 
  > > days a week to make up for it! LOL
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > John Pavlick
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Snaproll4 at aol.com wrote:
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Jim,
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > >       I have the Grand 
  > Caravan.  Two 2 meter planes are not a 
  > > problem 
  > > even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes.  I never 
  > thought 
  > > that I 
  > > would drive a mini van, but it is actually a pretty nice 
  > vehicle 
  > > to 
  > > drive all the time.  However,  the kids I work with 
  > call it the 
  > > " loser 
  > > cruiser".  It's not real sexy,  but you get to haul 
  > stuff from 
  > > Home 
  > > Depot too.  Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C on.  
  > It's a 
  > > better value 
  > > than the Town and Country(but not as nice).
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Steve
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight 
  > Time, 
  > > jim.woodward at baesystems.com writes:
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Hi Guys,
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > I commute about 75 miles a day, then do about 100 miles of 
  > > driving a 
  > > weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot.  I am 
  > thinking 
  > > to down 
  > > sizing one of my cars.  At this point, I’m thinking 
  > about 
  > > these three:
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage
  > > 
  > > Honda Fit, 34, hwy mileage
  > > 
  > > Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage
  > > 
  > > $ these around $16,000
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Here is a nice website that allows you to do car by car 
  > > comparisons.  
  > > 
  > http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=> 
  > > =0
  > > D
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do 
  > go, 
  > > and 
  > > that is the biggest bang for the buck? 
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Any ideas would be great. 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Thanks,
  > > 
  > > 
  > > Jim
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > >  
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
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