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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>No smell, just a wonderful aroma.....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=iflyrc24@gmail.com href="mailto:iflyrc24@gmail.com">DoWayne Gould</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=chad@f3acanada.org
href="mailto:chad@f3acanada.org">chad@f3acanada.org</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 12, 2008 5:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car
- 2 m plane hauling</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">You guys that carry your fuel
planes inside the vehicle how do you deal with the smell? I generally keep my
equipment in my truck unless it needs repair and when I open the hatch the
odor is pretty strong.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">My next hauler I was thinking of
a van type vehicle but not sure I want to smell my plane all the
time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Tahoma size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Dowayne<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Chad Northeast<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:14
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car
- 2 m plane hauling</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Yes, I liked them as well in my previous Matrix, but
some genious at <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Toyota</st1:place></st1:City> decided that no slip rubber pads were
just as good at restraining cargo....?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I will arrive at the field in Lindsay on the 29th
sometime with Ivan in his motorhome, so see you
then.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Chad</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:country-region><BR><BR>-----
Original Message -----<BR>From: "Pascoe,Tim [<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Burlington</st1:place></st1:City>]"
<Tim.Pascoe@ec.gc.ca><BR>Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:10
am<BR>Subject: RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>To:
chad@f3acanada.org, <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern
discussion</st1:PersonName>
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR><BR>> That’s really too bad.
It’s a great feature in my ’07 that I’ve <BR>> always thought would be a
benefit in a lot of other vehicles as <BR>> well. See you in Lindsay at the
trials…….<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Tim<BR>> <BR>>
________________________________<BR>> <BR>> From:
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-<BR>>
discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Chad Northeast<BR>> Sent:
Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:59 AM<BR>> To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><BR>> Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Hi Tim,<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
Unfortunately the movable tie downs on the back of the rear <BR>> seats are
gone in the '09 models.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Chad</st1:place></st1:country-region><BR>> <BR>> -----
Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Pascoe,Tim [<st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Burlington</st1:place></st1:City>]"
<Tim.Pascoe@ec.gc.ca><BR>> Date: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:27
am<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane
hauling<BR>> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern
discussion</st1:PersonName> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>>
<BR>> > I have a Matrix, and it does indeed hold a full 2M with
plug-<BR>> in <BR>> > wings. Front passenger seat folds down flat
(forward) and has <BR>> a <BR>> > handy little plastic tray on the
back to catch the oil drips <BR>> :) <BR>> > Back seats also fold
down flat individually, and the cargo <BR>> area <BR>> > and back of
the seats are plastic as well. Another nice little <BR>> > feature is
the set of moveable tie-downs in tracks running <BR>> back <BR>> > to
front in the cargo area, to secure an airplane stand. You <BR>> can
<BR>> > also put the plane in with a passenger, but you have to watch
<BR>> > the prop between the front seats when you shoulder
check!<BR>> > <BR>> > Tim Pascoe <BR>> > <BR>> >
-----Original Message-----<BR>> > From:
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-<BR>> >
discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of rcmaster199@aol.com<BR>>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:10 AM<BR>> > To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org; timsautopro@yahoo.com<BR>> > Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> > <BR>>
> Is anyone looking at the Toyota Matrix as a potential <BR>> candidate?
<BR>> > Seems <BR>> > that it should have enough room for one 2
meter model <BR>> > (plug in wings <BR>> > only), if the
front seat lays down flat. I wanted to look at <BR>> > this as an
<BR>> > alternative to the grand caravan I'm driving now, assuming the
<BR>> > mileage <BR>> > was 50% better.<BR>> > <BR>> >
The PT Cruiser definitely will hold a full 2 meter. My friend <BR>> in
<BR>> > <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">FLA</st1:place></st1:State> <BR>> > used one for several
years. With the 4-banger, he was getting <BR>> > around 30 <BR>> >
mpg.<BR>> > <BR>> > I had a Ford Windstar with the 3.8 and as Tim
mentioned, it <BR>> blew <BR>> > its <BR>> > gasket at around
75K. Very distasteful experience.<BR>> > <BR>> > MattK<BR>>
> <BR>> > -----Original Message-----<BR>> > From: Ed Alt
<ed_alt@hotmail.com><BR>> > To: timsautopro@yahoo.com;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName> <BR>>
> <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> > Sent: Mon, 11 Aug
2008 11:02 pm<BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m
plane hauling<BR>> > <BR>> > So if I get another one, I might
achieve a 20% success <BR>> rate? <BR>> > Thanks <BR>> >
anyhow!<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Date: Mon, 11
Aug 2008 17:29:34 -0700<BR>> > From: timsautopro@yahoo.com<BR>> >
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Ed, I
work on these things everyday, if you buy a mit don't <BR>> say <BR>>
> I <BR>> > didn't warn you. :)<BR>> > <BR>> >
Dave, take a pencil eraser and clean the contacts on the <BR>> doors,
<BR>> > btw has <BR>> > it blown the head gaskets yet? If not it
most likely doesn't <BR>> > have the <BR>> > 3.8 engine.<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > By far the Scaryvans give far
less trouble20than any other <BR>> > minivan in <BR>> > the same
class. Look at it this way, a mommymobile isn't <BR>> > anything
<BR>> > different than a pickup with a camper shell.<BR>> >
<BR>> > Tim<BR>> > <BR>> > --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Dave Burton
<burtona@atmc.net> wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > From: Dave Burton
<burtona@atmc.net><BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small
Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> > To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'" <BR>> >
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> > Date: Monday, August 11,
2008, 7:13 PM<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > I use a Ford Windstar to carry mine and as
much as I thought I <BR>> > would <BR>> > dislike a minivan I got
to say I like it a lot. I’ve had some <BR>> > electrical issues too but
limited to interior lights, door <BR>> > locks, and <BR>> > power
windows. I think it’s related to the sensors that tell <BR>> the <BR>>
> computer when all the doors are closed. Mines a 1999 model so <BR>>
> all that <BR>> > electrical stuff is getting kinda aged now. But
with 150K it <BR>> > still runs <BR>> > great, burns no oil and
gets 22-26 mpg depending on how heavy <BR>> > the foot <BR>> > is.
I’ll get another one when it dies. Carries 2 planes, gear, <BR>> >
luggage <BR>> > for my wife & I, tent, cooler, and lounge chairs to
contest easily.<BR>> > Dave Burton<BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > From:
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> >
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of <BR>> >
Ed Alt<BR>> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 6:43 PM<BR>> > To:
jpavlick@idseng.com; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern
discussion</st1:PersonName><BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Small
Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > All valid points. The on<BR>> > e thing I can't
stand about the Dodge stuff <BR>> > though, and I'm on my 4th and last
one now, is that they <BR>> > basically <BR>> > can't get the
electrical gremlins out of the car. Every <BR>> one of <BR>> >
mine <BR>> > has acted as if it is haunted in some way. I can
explain <BR>> each <BR>> > of the <BR>> > unique behaviors that
my 4 Caravan's have had, but it just <BR>> > shouldn't be <BR>> >
so. It's more stuff than is worth going into here, but <BR>> don't
<BR>> > say I <BR>> > didn't warn you. You get what you pay
for. Next <BR>> time, I'm <BR>> > looking at <BR>> > a
Mitsubishi.<BR>> > <BR>> > Ed<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:36:59
-0700<BR>> > From: jpavlick@idseng.com<BR>> > To:
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Small Car - 2 m plane hauling<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > Another vote for the Caravan. I can honestly say
that I love <BR>> > mine too. <BR>> > The mileage figures everyone
is claiming are right on. On <BR>> > my trip to <BR>> > the NATs
this year I saw 24 - 26 with the A/C on (and I wasn't <BR>> > exactly
<BR>> > driving at the speed limit). Around town you get about 18.
<BR>> > PLENTY of <BR>> > room. I have Stow-N-Go on mine so I can
fold the seats right <BR>> > into the <BR>> > floor. When you do
this you can get full 8' sheets of plywood <BR>> > inside <BR>> >
the van with the hatch closed.<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Add a hitch and you can tow an 18'
big block Olds powered Jet <BR>> > boat. Try <BR>> > that with a
Prius!<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > As for the "soccer mom" image
- just ride your Harley to work <BR>> a <BR>> > few <BR>> >
days a week to make up for it! LOL<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > John
Pavlick<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Snaproll4@aol.com wrote:<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> Jim,<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > I have the
Grand <BR>> Caravan. Two 2 meter planes are not a <BR>> >
problem <BR>> > even with a tent, chair and extra tool boxes. I
never <BR>> thought <BR>> > that I <BR>> > would drive a mini
van, but it is actually a pretty nice <BR>> vehicle <BR>> > to
<BR>> > drive all the time. However, the kids I work with
<BR>> call it the <BR>> > " loser <BR>> > cruiser". It's
not real sexy, but you get to haul <BR>> stuff from <BR>> >
Home <BR>> > Depot too. Highway mileage is 26 with the A/C
on. <BR>> It's a <BR>> > better value <BR>> > than the
Town and Country(but not as nice).<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Steve<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > In a message dated 8/11/2008 4:02:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight
<BR>> Time, <BR>> > jim.woodward@baesystems.com writes:<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Hi Guys,<BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > I commute about 75 miles
a day, then do about 100 miles of <BR>> > driving a <BR>> >
weekend for practice so I am on the road a lot. I am <BR>> thinking
<BR>> > to down <BR>> > sizing one of my cars. At this
point, I’m thinking <BR>> about <BR>> > these three:<BR>> >
<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Scion XB, 28, hwy mileage<BR>> > <BR>> > Honda Fit, 34, hwy
mileage<BR>> > <BR>> > Chevy HHR, 30 , hwy mileage<BR>> >
<BR>> > $ these around $16,000<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Here is a nice website
that allows you to do car by car <BR>> > comparisons. <BR>>
> <BR>>
http://scionbuyersguide.theautochannel.com/compare_details.php?car1=21667&car2=22687&car3=22711&car4=>
<BR>> > =0<BR>> > D<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > OR – is something like the Dodge Grand Caravan the way do
<BR>> go, <BR>> > and <BR>> > that is the biggest bang for the
buck? <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > Any ideas would be great. <BR>> > <BR>> >
<BR>> > Thanks,<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Jim<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>>
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