[NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Sun Apr 20 09:19:11 AKDT 2008

Troy,

What do you mean by negative stab? Are you talking of incidence or something
else?

Thanks,

Dave

From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Troy A.
Newman
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:06 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

No the XXc is the Oxai model. 

The Extreme Composite version was sold around the world as the Astral XX but
was an early version of the model and was not sold in Japan  under that
name. It was the Aurea(japan market) built by Extreme composite. It was an
earlier design of the model.

The XXplus was the Naruke Hobby one built in Japan. The Plus and the XXc
(custom) were essentially the same flying wise. The difference was the
amount of negative stab. The XXc was like -6 degs and the Plus was -8. Other
than that they were the same airfoils and same model. The construction is a
little different between the XXc and the Plus. Both are wood models. The
Plus had the clear canopy and a balsa built up wing. Yes balsa ribs. The XXc
was the Oxai version and it is a wood model with foam wings sheeted. The
Oxai XXc also had a glass and painted canopy. The Oxai version is about
6-8oz lighter than the Naruke Hobby version and about 1/2 the cost. Most of
this weight is the clear canopy and little doll inside.

Right now the latest Naruke design from Oxai is the Aries. It has a clear
canopy like the Naruke Hobby version, and is essentially the same model. As
I understand it they are not doing the extreme composite route with that
model. Naruke I think was trying to serve a price break market. The cheaper
Aurea was around 2K, then the Oxai was around 3K and the Naruke Hobby custom
one if you can get on the list is around 5-6K. The custom hand built ones in
Japan are a long lead time and very hard to get even at the high price
point. They build the plane specifically for you. That is again if you can
get on the list. They are pretty awesome models.

Troy

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rex <mailto:trexlesh at msn.com>  

To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:39 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Oh, that's right...  The XXc wasn't an Oxai model...  I had forgotten that.
Good info!  Thanks Troy!

Rex

  _____  

From: troy_newman at msn.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:32:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Oxai has never provided a choice of stab. There is one Pinnacle that was
built and heavily modified for me.  It had a negative tail on it. But it
also had many other mods too. It was my Electric Pinnacle and it was a one
of a kind. I wished it was not an electric model. I would likely be flying
it still today. It was a really good model, but I didn't like it was
Electric.

All 2007 and later Beryl's had the negative stab. Yes it was possible to buy
the later stab and retrofit it to the older Beryl (straight stab models) but
it was never an option.

All the Astral XXc models had the negative stab. You are thinking of a
different model. Quality wise, construction material wise and also weight
wise it was and is NOT an Oxai model, not even in the same ball park.. Not
to mention it wasn't even the same plane. Different wing, stab and the fuse
was also slightly different too. 

I'm pretty close to the Importer of the Oxai planes into the USA and we keep
up pretty close on what is available and new with the models.

The Oxai Bipes are very impressive. I have a pair of them and really like
the way they fly. 

Troy

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rex <mailto:trexlesh at msn.com>  

To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:48 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Ya, I figured You'd know about it...  I just hadn't seen anything on the
list about it yet.
I'm already looking for my next project, and would like to see some feedback
on a few 
different planes before I decide the direction I'd like to go.  I'm
wondering if the buyer
has a choice on the stab....  like on the Beryll and Astral?
I really like the way they go together.  Really simple.
Thanks Troy.  I was just trying to stir the pot a little and see what pops
up!

Rex

  _____  

From: troy_newman at msn.com
To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 21:46:40 -0700
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Rex,

what would like to know?

Bare airframe is 2400g Electric only and it will be close on the weight
limit. The prototype models all made weight. With various power combos. From
the Hacker c50 to the Oxai motor. Similar plug together snap together wing
attachment to that of my Adventure and Euphoria Bipes. Both from Oxai. Two
bolts are the only fasteners needing tools to attach the wings and "I"
struts No flying wires used or needed.

Wings all glassed and painted. Like all Oxai models.

Adjustable plug in stab

Access hatch for the batts when its all put together.

What else would you like to know?

Troy

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Rex <mailto:trexlesh at msn.com>  

To: NSRCA-discussion <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 8:23 PM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Amethyst EP Bipe

Ok, how many have seen or know about this new plane...  looks pretty
interesting.

http://www.oxai-rccom/main/List.aspx?MID=1
<http://www.oxai-rc.com/main/List.aspx?MID=1> 

Rex Lesher

  _____  

_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion

  _____  

_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion

  _____  

_______________________________________________
NSRCA-discussion mailing list
NSRCA-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.nsrca.org/pipermail/nsrca-discussion/attachments/20080420/7428b705/attachment-0001.html 