[NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers

[Don Ramsey]

Morten,

I don't think there is a higher line on maneuver 8.  The figure 9 (maneuver 8) does start on a high line and does go higher but that higher point is never flown, it is only touched.  Since it is a turn around maneuver the high box is not going to be a factor.  The maneuver will get very high but should not affect the judging (I think).

Don
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Morten Laugesen 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers


  Hi,

   


  Now that the discussion about the new schedules has come up I thought that I would ask about your opinion regarding a sequence of manoeuvres in P-09. In Denmark we have been discussing how to interpret manoeuvres 6, 7 and 8.



  They are:

  6: Half outside loop, inverted entry

  7: Triangle loop, with ½ rolls in each leg, inverted exit

  8: Figure 9, two ½ rolls in opposite direction on downline, inverted entry




  What we are thinking is that if done this way, and if the exit of the half outside loop and the entry to the triangle loop are done at the normal upper flight line (top-line) a second even higher top-line will be introduced when performing the Figure 9? My understanding of the rules is that you have a bottom-, a middle- and a top-line in the box, but now it seems we have introduced a second top-line?

   

  If the triangle loop is actually the bottom half of an hour-glass, and hence entered at half height things make better sense, however then it could possibly be difficult to get time to perform the half rolls on each leg of the triangle loop.? It can be done, but it wouldn't look very graceful?

   

  Any ideas or opinions on this matter?



  Kind regards,
  Morten Laugesen

  e-mail: morten at laugesen.nu
  URL:   http://morten.laugesen.nu


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: george w. kennie 
    To: NSRCA Mailing List 
    Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 7:22 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers


    Yeah John,
    I got thinking about this yesterday after I mailed the question and came up with the only way it would make sense and yes you're right, the Aresti shows it as you state.
    Thanks for enlightening me.
    G.



      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: John Gayer 
      To: NSRCA Mailing List 
      Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 12:03 AM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers


      The only way the  maneuver makes sense is if the roll is the last 45 degrees of the first loop and the first 45 degrees of the second loop. It is clearer in the Arresti diagram.
      John

      Steven Maxwell wrote: 
        Ok what am I missing #13 P-09 "2 outside loops from the top full integrated roll over top 90 degrees of second loop" wouldn't the second loop be completed before the 90 degrees of the roll?
         Steve Maxwell

        Earl Haury <ejhaury at comcast.net> wrote:
          Karl

          My fault - not Don's, the magic of PC copying.

          Earl
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Karl G. Mueller 
            To: Don Ramsey ; NSRCA Mailing List 
            Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:47 PM
            Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers


            Don,

            The scoresheet for the finals schedule 09 reads P0-9
            instead of F-09.

            Karl G. Mueller
            kgamueller at rogers.com

              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: Don Ramsey 
              To: NSRCA Mailing List 
              Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:46 PM
              Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 2008 FAI F3A Maneuvers


              The 2008-2009 F3A maneuvers are posted on the judging section of the NSRCA site.  Score sheets are also there.

              http://www.nsrca.org/competition/judging/judging.htm

              Don

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