[NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

Thu Sep 6 17:54:11 AKDT 2007

I think I'm a little confused. Why would this be a question? If the Aresti shows positive and if "Aresti takes Precedence",  then why are we trying to make it questionable?  Yeah, I can see the case for wind correction, but there are allowances provided in the downgrades.

I do, however, have a couple of areas in P that stymy me. It appears in maneuver # 5 that there is a push at the first top radius that puts you upright at the top of a Top-Hat which I have always been advised is a no-no under any circumstances. I realize the distance is short, but it still counters the rule. What gives???????
Also, maneuver # 13 has you doing a full roll over the top 90 degrees of the SECOND loop. This would leave you on a < 45 downline exit line leading into a two turn spin. How the heck do you handle that ??????

This is getting good guys. I like it, I like it !!!!!!
Me  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Earl Haury 
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  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

  I'm not sure - typically knowns with optional snap pitch will depict the option in parenthesis in Aresti. Only the positive Aresti figure is shown. Any one else got some insight?

  Earl
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: flyintexan at comcast.net 
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    Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 2:50 PM
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

    Earl,

    Is the 1-1/4" downline snap required to be a Positive snap?  It is shown positive in the aresti, but is not specifically stated in the text (text that I have seen thusfar).

    Thanks,
    -mark

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      From: "Earl Haury" <ejhaury at comcast.net> 

      Both '09 sequences work pretty well - the 1 1/4 snap on the down leg of the P stall turn is tricky, the 1 1/2 snap from knife edge works really well.

      Earl
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Woodward, Jim 
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        Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 12:44 PM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

        Georgie - its not too bad on rudder authority.  The Aggressor and Abbra perform the negative loop with 4-point across the bottom without breaking a sweat.  Although mentally it's a bit tough at first to "throttle-up" in the sort of negative 45 degree portion of the loop on knife-edge J.  The knife-edge loop was a bit big.    I have not tried yet the 1.5 positive snap from knife-edge, exit inverted yet.  

        Thanks,

        Jim W.

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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of george w. kennie
        Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:27 PM
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

        Earl,

        Thanks for the assist !  Boy there's some very interesting figures coming our way in these sequences. I was just starting to get a little comfortable with the rollers and now they're upping the ante !  When you have to execute a rolling element across the top of a looping segment, it's not too bad 'cause you've got a gravitational assist, but doing integrated stuff across the bottom is going to require a lot of side area and rudder authority equivalent to elephantine proportions.

        While I was perusing the sequences, my wife heard me mutter "I like it", to which she responded, "YOU LIKE IT ?" , and I shot back, " Yeah, I like it when they tell me to do the impossible". 

        Thanks again Earl,

        Georgie

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: Earl Haury 

          To: NSRCA Mailing List 

          Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 10:09 AM

          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

          Georgie et al

          They are available on the FAI CIAM website, but not terribly easy to dig out. I've sent the files (and P/F-09) score sheets to Don Ramsey to post on the NSRCA website. And yes, the sequences for '08 are '09 (numbered in the year they will be flown in the WC). 

          Earl

          PS: Georgie - I forwarded a copy of the note to Don with the file attachments.

            ----- Original Message ----- 

            From: george w. kennie 

            To: NSRCA Mailing List 

            Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 8:21 AM

            Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] left- handed duh

            I've been playing with a Quest II with a 120 FZ over the past season and have been relatively happy with it's performance, but most of the summer flight sessions have been quite warm in these parts and the engine has provided good power, enough to do P-07 no problems. However, due to the fact that I'm using all the power available, I've gotten into the habit of nailing the throttle on any vertical stuff. Well yesterday the temps just made it to 70 degrees and the old 120 thought it was brand new again and I actually had difficulty controlling the power. The thing was accelerating on verticals which was disconcerting to say the least. Maybe I need to create a Flight Mode for cold weather as I think I'm too old to become more accomplished at throttle management. Wheew !!!.............., if it ain't one thing, it's................

            Oh,.......anybody know where I can download P-09, F-09 ????  We are going to be doing those next year, right ????????????

            Thanks 

            Georgie

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