[NSRCA-discussion] Judging-snap & spin

[J N Hiller]

That would reduce the effect of inconsistent judging but I don’t think we
should go there.
I am flying Advanced and these snap maneuvers are somewhat new to me after
several years out of pattern. I am experiencing a fair amount of
inconsistency in flying the three maneuvers in the schedule (Avalanche, 45
down snap and 3 turn spin ‘all K-3’) having snap or spin elements. In
looking at my score sheets from three 6 round contests I find only two
occurrences where there were a big scoring difference 0 –7 & 8.5-3. Having
judged snaps and spins a few times it can be a very close call as to whether
the criteria is met or not and as a pilot I get the message that my
presentation is questionable when I get large differences.
I am consistently posting lower 6 round averages for these than the K-4
maneuvers (6 side outside loop, triangle rolling loop, 4-point). I believe
airplane design and set-up may be a bigger factor than skill, which is
primarily symmetry and positioning. Retaining the K-3 gives us more
incentive to acquire all necessary skills.
Jim Hiller


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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ron Lockhart
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging-snap & spin

Eliminating is one solution - a price that comes with that solution is lack
of practice doing and judging snaps-
which is desirable for some in AMA classes, and for sure for those looking
ahead to F3A.

An in between thought - reduce the K factor considerable for snap and spin
maneuvers.
That leaves them in the schedules, provides flying and judging practice on
them, but reduces the
impact of the imperfect judging of them on round scores.

Ron Lockhart
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Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 11:44 AM
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My cents worth on the subject.
Snaps and Spin entry seem to cause much of the problem.
Why do we continue to repeat trying to solve a problem that most agree is
controversial at best and impossible to judge consistently on an equal
basis?
Seems that the best solution is to eliminate these from the schedules and
pick maneuvers that more suit Precision Aerobatics and their ability to be
judged correctly by everyone not just those who have advanced to the top of
the super judge platform.

Buddy



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