[NSRCA-discussion] D3 Championship

[vicenterc at comcast.net]

Jim,

I think that was me that proposed to do judging training before the contest while we wait for the sun to get away.  However, I think judging training can be justified even is we can not fly one round in the contest.  

I have been doing pattern clinics in my club in the last 3-4 years.  Now, we have 3 club judges with very good experience.  The only problem is that we have more club judges than pilots flying pattern in my club.  The clinics consist in just fly a sequences in front of the judges.  Judges will score or not score as a request of the pilot.  After each fly, we discuss the downgrades of each maneuver.  This process has a lot of value because judges with experience and knowledge of the rules explain the downgrade process for each maneuver.  Early in the year, we start with classroom clinics to study the rule book.  It is interesting, after we do 3-4 clinics in Spring these judges gets so close that is scary.  Clearly, more judging clinics is the best we can do for pattern.  

We finished the season here in D5.  Why you guys in Florida try this in the next contest?  I believe Tangerine is the next one.  

Regards,  

--
Vicente "Vince" Bortone

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From: "Woodward, Jim" <jim.woodward at baesystems.com> 

Ryan – already forgotten.
 
Prior to launching this topic in a manner which has not been done before, I figured that I would receive untold flames and bad email, & may be the catalyst for leaving pattern entirely.  Instead, I can tell you that unequivocally through private emails sent back to me that this exact same phenomena is occurring in D4, D7, and Internationally, each with horrendous examples of quoting one, “… less than objective” scoring taking place.  
 
The best solution proposed so far has been interactive flying/judging events to take place at contests (… if I understood this person’s email correctly).
 
Another opinion expressed privately was that there is a feeling that TREMENDOUS PRESSURE is on the FAI judges to “get it right.”  That these same persons trying to break the cycle and get it right are feeling the “paypack” when they fly.  For those that are doing their utter best, care, invest their time (& risk) in judging, I say THANK YOU for doing EVERYTHING you can to ensure folks are getting your best. It is DEFINIETLY appreciated.  Another opinion was, “… why should I score it, get it right, feel the heat for bunking the system, only to see the other judge skew the score by being 100 points off??”  I can only say again, thank you for doing your part to uphold the system!  
 
Jim W.
 
 
 

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