[NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane or Crab

Winston E Batchelor perkinsrx at centurytel.net
Sat Oct 13 22:30:29 AKDT 2007


Thanks George
I realy didn'ty want to argue with Doug

BUT the 1st time I noticed this I had just begun riding and it scared the
S_ -tmout of me.
I was in no way experienced enoug to make a correction. IN fact it alomost
blew me onto the shoulder of the road and considering I was on the I-10
bridge over Lake Charles  there wasn't no shpoulder  just a wall.

Yes i later , with experience, learned to handle it and always enjoyed just
relaxing and let the bike do the work.

Maybe it was a quirk of the Yamaha XS100  fairing setup   - I don't know
but it was real to me.

Eddie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "george w. kennie" <geobet at gis.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane or Crab


> Eddie,
> You're not cracking up !   I'm an avid bicyclist and I've had the same
> experience on gusty days. I've never gotten really used to it, as it
scares
> me every time it happens.
> I thought it was caused by the apparent (to the wind) disc of the spoked
> wheels presenting a greater area to the cross wind combined with the
lighter
> mass as compared to the mass of my body, but I don't think this reasoning
> applies to a Goldie.
> I'd bow to Jim A. on this one.
> G.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 11:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Weather Vane or Crab
>
>
> > Believe it or not, if the bike is leaning INTO the gust, then you're
> > doing it. You're more than likely doing it without even thinking about
> > it. I've raced quite a bit in fairly high winds at Willow Springs here
> > in CA, and what you're describing happens so quickly that you might
> > think it's caused by the wind, especially if you've been riding for
> > awhile.
> >
> > -Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie Batchelor wrote:
> >> Ok
> >> Let me ask a question that may be related to this thread   or is it ?
> >> I have NO aerodynamic training and my limited knowledge is only what
I've
> >> been able to absorb from discussions with Nat   - so I have no idea how
> >> to
> >> explain what's happening.
> >>
> >> I used to ride motorcycles. I have owned two, a Yamaha XS1100 tourer
and
> >> a
> >> Honda GoldWing 1500 SE.  BOTH bikes when hit by a gust of crosswind on
> >> the
> >> highway would lean into the gust, a lot! It was not me and it was
strong
> >> enough to scare me silly the first time it happened. After some riding
> >> experience I learned to expect it and just relax because resulted in a
> >> self
> >> correcting motion.
> >>
> >> Is there any correlation to what is being discussed in this thread or
am
> >> I
> >> talking about a totally different phenomon. My first thought is that
the
> >> bike could be compared to the airplane  EXCEPT the bike isn't airborne
it
> >> is
> >> still in contact with the ground.
> >>
> >> Until reading thios thread and rethinking all I've read I had believed
> >> the
> >> airplane reacted the same as my bike but I wasn't considering the fact
> >> the
> >> airplane is no longer in contact with the ground like the bike is.
> >>
> >>
> >
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