[NSRCA-discussion] Cross Wind Components

[billglaze]

Don't know the current standards, (if they've changed) but it used to be 
that for military testing purposes, a spin wasn't considered "developed" 
until 5 turns had been achieved.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cross Wind Components


>I agree with John K's comments.
> Years ago received a briefing from a NASA test pilot that ran a light
> aircraft study
> of spin capability.  He also made the point that when you exceed the 
> number
> of spin
> turns you have become a test pilot.  Also noted that in his spin testing 
> he
> had found
> a number of planes that acted no different after exceeding the certified
> number, and
> also a number that got real nasty.  He also noted if CG is out of limits,
> your a test pilot.
>
> Later Ron Lockhart
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Konneker" <jlkonn at hotmail.com>
> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Crashing on takeoff and landing
>
>
>> Chris Moon may want to correct me if I'm wrong but...
>> Crosswind components.
>> The term is "demonstrated crosswind component" and is just that...the
>> maximum that was demonstrated during certification.
>> Talking full size here.
>> You may not have the skill to successfully land with the DCC or you may 
>> be
> a
>> good enough pilot to successfully exceed the DCC.
>> The DCC is not the absolute limit of the airplane capability.
>> Same with spins.
>> Something like a C-152 Aerobat is approved for spins.
>> 3 turns were demonstrated during certification.
>> They too may be exceeded...
>> The only thing when you do you are entering the realm of "Test Pilot".
>> :-)
>> There!
>> I'm going back to bed.
>> My head hurts!
>> JLK
>>
>>
>> >From: "Del K. Rykert" <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
>> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Crashing on takeoff and landing
>> >Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:55:43 -0400
>> >
>> >Basically two big reasons.  People sometimes have not mastered the
>> >transitory part of leaving or arriving in wind and all flying vehicles
> have
>> >a crosswind limit that they can be landed and taking off in. If it is
>> >exceeded crashes are often the result. Even the shuttle does and the
>> >Concorde had crosswind limits.
>> >
>> >     Del
>> >   ----- Original Message -----
>> >   From: rjo626 at aol.com
>> >   To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> >   Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:46 PM
>> >   Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Turbulence
>> >
>> >
>> >        Then why do more people seem to crash on takeoff or landing on
>> >windy days?
>> >                        RJO
>> >
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