[NSRCA-discussion] Bad day at the field...lookingfor agood plane

[precisionaero at comcast.net]

Well, if it makes you feel better (for me), I was out at the field the other day and was again flying terrible!  I was coming in on a crosswind and busted a prop on a bouncy landing.  I didn't have another prop, but even if I did, I was disgusted with my flying and packed it up to go home.  While cleaning my H-stab, it moved!  Not a little, but a lot.  So, looks like I can blame the poor flying on something else.  Not sure what is worn that badly, I had to go to Grand Prairie, TX before I could pull the stab off to see what allows it to move like a Hip-Hop female singer.....

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From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber at clearwire.net> 

All of the 2.4 ghz systems have at least a little bit of downlink.  The RX communicates with the TX so the TX can tell if the RX is getting the data stream or not.  If the checksum (or whatever reply the RX sends...) is not right, then the TX logic starts looking for the next frequency available.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jay Marshall 
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:08 PM
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I haven’t tried it but doesn’t Xtreme Power’s spread spectrum module have a downlink?

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Fred Huber
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:41 PM
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Eagletree systems makes one. appx $400 for the black box recorder with downlink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Del K. Rykert 
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 1:08 PM
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Someone smarter than I should invent a black  (orange) box for post analysis.  lol    Hmmm.. now to make it light as a feather .. The Brits send all their data to ground as it occurs in flight. 

    Del
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bob Kane 
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:38 AM
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Too bad it was the Brio with the Atwood scheme . . . . . .   you could come up with a new plane in the Andrew Jesky scheme pretty easily (for a price).  :)

My KM Star went in on landing approach a couple of years ago and I still don't know why . . .  the radio system worked when everything was plugged back together.  I am flying other stuff with the receiver and servos, I tossed the battery and switch.  You may never know why it went in. Too bad there is no "CSI" video to watch after the fact.
 
Bob Kane
getterflash at yahoo.com 

----- Original Message ----
From: Mark Atwood <atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>
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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:59:28 AM
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In that regard I have become a HUGE fan of using 1/2” thin wall shrink wrap tubing to secure all of my permanent connections.  ALL of them were intact after the crash and in one case (Throttle servo) the connector stayed connected to the extension, but the wire harness ripped out of the connector into the Rx.  Ugly...

-M


On 5/10/07 9:09 AM, "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com> wrote:
I sympathize. My Evolution went in on the second flight. I hadn’t even flown it; a more experienced pilot was checking it out for me. Went into a lake where the engine still rests. I did salvage the FASST radio and the digital servos – that part floated.
 
Looks like the battery connection was bad. Never again will I fly w/o safety clips on all of the servo extensions and battery.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Karl G. Mueller
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 9:04 AM
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Mark,



Sorry to hear about your loss of the Brio.

It always seems twice as bad when it happens to a new

plane and you cannot put your finger on what caused the 

problem.



Karl G. Mueller
kgamueller at rogers.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Mark Atwood <mailto:atwoodm at paragon-inc.com>  

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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:00 PM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad day at the field...looking for a good plane



Hey All,

Had a bad day with a new Brio at the flying field.  9th or 10th total flight...just starting to get it trimmed out, first maneuver of F-07, downline snap, about to push to inverted...and nothing. :(  Not sure what happened...no interference.  Battery was checked prior to the flight, but had 0 voltage afterwards.  Haven’t checked the system for a short yet...crash was brutal though, so hard to know what was cause, and what was result.

Amazing the sound these planes make when they crunch.  Complete carnage in a newly plowed cornfield.

Anyhow, now that I’m done drying my tears, I need a good backup plane.  Preferably something similar to the Brio, (Ideally another Brio).   Anyone have something that’s built and ready for a 1.60DZ (that I’ll need to rebuild too, since the crash torn the side off the crankcase!!)

If so, please contact me off list!  Atwoodm at paragon-inc.com

Thanks!

Mark 




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