[NSRCA-discussion] Muncie's reason to exist

Tony Stillman tony at radiosouthrc.com
Wed May 2 06:02:17 AKDT 2007


Fred:
Maybe you should take into consideration all of the equipment needed, as
well as extra people that have to be hired to put up and take down tents,
mow grass, set-up pylons, install Control Line cages, etc. etc.  Hundreds of
thousands of dollars are invested in equipment and maintenance to put on the
Nats.  

 

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South

3702 N. Pace Blvd

Pensacola, FL 32505

1-800-962-7802

www.radiosouthrc.com

 

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Fred Huber
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:23 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Muncie's reason to exist

 

between the membership dues, sanction fees, NATS participation fees ($40 per
member per event they fly in!) advertising in Model Aviation and income from
the DVD, credit card program and such... there's really no excuse for the
AMA to have a financial problem ever.  THEN add all the donations....

 

I see no problem with the NATS on thier own running at a deficit and
Membership dues supporting that event.  Thats part of the original purpose
of the AMA... to organize and hold the annual national competitions.

 

I do see a problem when the NATS use contestant/volunteer judging and lot of
volunbteer labor and still can't break even on $40 per contestant...  Clubs
MAKE A PROFIT on contests when charging $20 per entrant.

 

Someone is doing something wrong somewhere.  Thats the only possible
explaination for the NATS comming out $25k in the red.  And raising entry
fees won't cure it.  Its sounding to me like its time for an audit.

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From: Jerry <mailto:JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>  Stebbins 

To: Discussion -NSRCA <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:26 PM

Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Muncie's reason to exist

 

 

Tony,I do know, and as voiced by others around at the time, that Muncie was
defined, justified and implemented as a common location to hold AMA NATS
Events. Whatever else it did, or could do, was secondary. 

That being the case, why isn't the real question "How do we expand all the
NATS and cover any associated expenses".

We have heard these same old complaints about the NATS for many years, and
yet the EC seems to let them fester, rather than solving them.

I also have heard threats that if "it" don't get fixed then the NATS will go
away. I have news for that position-if AMA takes that road--they will go
away since  they could not stand a large Membership reduction. They could
quickly be replaced by a new viable "service the membership" organization
holding all the NATS! Maybe that is what they want?

Wonder what the Greater Muncie CoC would have to say about that?

The cost deficit I have heard has always been expressed based upon
Membership $. What about the large $s given to AMA every year by
donations/bequests, and what about Event fees? How about all the revenue
taken in from the family members and contestants on shirts/caps/whatever,
and at the Museum?  Don't they all provide additional resources, or are new
tasks/jobs created to absorb them. Maybe the answer is to reduce overall AMA
growth/costs. 

The majority of facilities/support items (tents,tables,trailers,chairs,etc.)
used to support the NATS are already sunk costs-with typical periodic
maintenance  or replacement costs.

What is it that "doesn't get done" for the time when a few staff support the
NATS, rather than their "normal" jobs?

It would be interesting to hear a candid position of each Member of the EC,
to see what they actually think

the role of AMA at Muncie is.

It sounds like they may have in mind a totally different mission for Muncie
than was originally defined. 

Looks like that would be a good project for AMA Members from each AMA
District to find out. 

In any case it smells like AMA is moving away from a "service the
Membership" mentality, and towards a "do more-different/create more" growth
business mentality, using complaints/costs as a justification.

Jerry

 

  


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