[NSRCA-discussion] Flying in wind

[Ron Van Putte]

On Mar 15, 2007, at 4:39 PM, rcmaster199 at aol.com wrote:

> This reminded me of something a Golfing pro (Rocco Mediate I think)  
> said a while back....and I paraphrase: "the average amateur has no  
> idea how much better skilled the pro is".
>
> Ron, I wouldn't fret too much. If you still can, invite him to try  
> and beat your flying skill.... in the process possibly you may  
> convert him into a believer, both that you are indeed better and  
> that he also may improve enough to get a piece of your action. A  
> win-win

I didn't/don't say what I did to denigrate the sport pilot, but to  
point out to him that there are skills to be acquired in learning how  
to fly Pattern airplane that are immediately transferrable back into  
sport flying: a better pilot enjoys all kinds of flying even more.

Ron Van Putte

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vanputte at cox.net
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Sent: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flying in wind
>
> This is a very good point.  When you learn to use all the tools  
> properly and develop discipline and skill by practice, you will be  
> a better pilot.
>
> BTW, I've had sport pilots say something to me like, "You Pattern  
> pilots think you're better pilots than the rest of us."  I probably  
> didn't make any friends for Pattern when I said, "Yes, we do,  
> because we have the discipline and skill to do maneuvers we want to  
> do where we want to do them."
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Mar 15, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Mike Robinson wrote:
>
>> Robert - I've had and have most of your flying habits. But, once I  
>> committed to do maneuvers in a planned way instead of just doing  
>> them I soon realized I needed to use every tool available to me  
>> which included the rudder. I have found that with practice, and a  
>> good coach if available, those habits tend to be replaced with  
>> better ones. I guess I'm saying "Do your time" and it will work out.
>> Lastly, those maneuvers are supposed to be daunting! If they were  
>> easy, then every sport flyer would be a pattern flyer!
>>
>> On 3/15/07, Robert L. Beaubien <rbeaubien at koolsoft.com> wrote:
>> As someone that is trying to unlearn the bad habits of my  
>> training, I wonder if I am approaching this the wrong way.
>>
>> I was trained to fly without rudder (except for ground control)  
>> and learned the reverse controls concept when flying toward me and  
>> I pretty much think that way when flying.  I have learned to use a  
>> little rudder to be able to land in crosswinds, but it just seems  
>> to foreign to me.  As I start down the path of learning to fly  
>> pattern, I find the concept of learning to fly a straight path in  
>> a cross wind while performing maneuvers to be daunting.
>>
>> Troy has been helping me out a lot, but I was wondering if anyone  
>> has suggestions for going through this relearning process.
>>
>> - Robert Beaubien
>>
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
>> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Archie Stafford
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:54 AM
>> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice
>>
>> I have to disagree on this one.  I now teach guys for a living how  
>> to fly.  We end up teaching them UAV's, but they learn on .60 size  
>> trainers.  These guys have no background in R/C and I think if you  
>> don't let them be affected by the wind, then they wont be.  Our  
>> normal flying days here in SW texas are 10-15mph, and these guys  
>> are soloing in 5 days flying only in the afternoons. Usually  
>> straight in our face, or straight from our backs.  I don't think  
>> I've had a day yet that we didn't have a significant crosswind.  I  
>> have found here, that if you don't let the guys become  
>> psychologically affected by the wind and such, then it isn't near  
>> as big a factor.  Another tip we have found and it is true, is  
>> that we do not mention ANYTHING about the controls being different  
>> when coming at them.  I've heard people say "the controls reverse  
>> when coming at you", well, that's not actually true, it only !  
>> appears that way.  By not telling them that, it takes that thought  
>> process out of their heads and they don't fight it.  Teach in the  
>> wind, and they'll be able to fly in the wind.
>>
>> Arch Stafford
>>
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