[NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice
wgalligan
wgalligan at goodsonacura.com
Thu Mar 15 11:39:29 AKDT 2007
Yea... Archie,
I totally agree. We have members that have soloed. But because they didn't have good rudder training or crosswind experience they are either taking off a odd angles and landing by flying across the runway and hoping they settle somewhere in the middle. Or they just plain wont fly with some wind or crosswind. This time of year in Texas is just as bad as in Kansas and wind days under 10-20mph will be between weather fronts.
Build the runway that best suits the lay of the land and keeps the over fly area from people,buildings and animals. If you get a runway with favorable winds then that's a bonus.
We are currently in the process of locating a flying field and this has come up more then once about the wind. I personally like a north facing runway. That way you can fly almost at any time of the day. But unfortunately our prevailing winds or north and south here and that is going to dictate usually an east facing field for most club flyers.
Fortunately we have a club not too far away that has west facing field and I like that because of the Texas heat. I can go flying early in the morning and be home by 1:30 and still have most of my day. There is a silver lining to any situation.
Wayne Galligan
SkyBlazers R/C Club
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From: Archie Stafford
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:54 PM
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I have to disagree on this one. I now teach guys for a living how to fly. We end up teaching them UAV's, but they learn on .60 size trainers. These guys have no background in R/C and I think if you don't let them be affected by the wind, then they wont be. Our normal flying days here in SW texas are 10-15mph, and these guys are soloing in 5 days flying only in the afternoons. Usually straight in our face, or straight from our backs. I don't think I've had a day yet that we didn't have a significant crosswind. I have found here, that if you don't let the guys become psychologically affected by the wind and such, then it isn't near as big a factor. Another tip we have found and it is true, is that we do not mention ANYTHING about the controls being different when coming at them. I've heard people say "the controls reverse when coming at you", well, that's not actually true, it only appears that way. By not telling them that, it takes that thought process out of their heads and they don't fight it. Teach in the wind, and they'll be able to fly in the wind.
Arch Stafford
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Fred Huber
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:44 PM
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I deal with beginners... and wind direction, even if light can play a huge factor in early lessons.
If this is a club general use field. wind does matter. Its far easier to get beginners past thier fear of wind if they can generally take off and land into wind straight down the runway. Then teaching wind compensation for crosswind on takeoff and landing is easier because they are't totally freaked out by a 7 to 10 mph breeze.
The contest will be one or two weekends a year... the rest of the flying is year round.
The statement that he has 300 avres available... there's probably room for 5 airfields (which means you could just about host the NATS) on the property... (unless that was a typo....) we only overfly appx 12 acres. If they really have that much room... they could easilly have the contest strip and another strip oriented for the prevailing wind.
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From: twtaylor
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:20 AM
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I want the sun out of the way. I could care less about the wind as it changes daily. If the wind gets over 10 mph they don't fly anyway. J
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:01 PM
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That issues may be trued if only catering to experienced /competent, pilots but if field is also being used by inexperienced and pilots just learning then wind direction is a big issue IMHO.
Del
----- Original Message -----
From: Archie Stafford
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:54 AM
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I would definitely lay it out facing north rather than worrying about the wind. Much easier to deal with a crosswind occasionally than it is not be able to fly part of a day because of the sun.
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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Fred Huber
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:46 AM
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What direction is the prevailing wind in relation to runway orientation?
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From: twtaylor
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:48 AM
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] New Field lay out Advice
In the process of laying out a field for Pattern and IMAC, along with normal flying. I attached a crude drawing in paint. What do you guys think? Any improvements? The runway paralles an access road that is dirt and is only used for driving around the property during the week and not much then. Over flight area is about 300 acres and the nearest house is about ½ mile out center and none on either end. The field faces almost due north so sun will not be a problem. I proposed a 80x600 runway of smooth grass with somewhat smooth over runs.
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