[NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

Tue Mar 6 02:45:16 AKST 2007

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>From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:04:38 -0600
>
>Verify your CG.  I would start there.  It should snap very nicely with the
>setup you have.  You are using aileron in your snap as well, right?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy Forbus
>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:59 PM
>To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>
>got it at max 140 % about 2 in, either way
>
>
> >From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:56:48 -0600
> >
> >Rudder I would definitely run more.  On the elevator that is more than
> >enough.  I flew the 9254 servo last year, same as CPLR, 48oz on the
> >elevator
> >and had no problems on my Mantis.  Actually the Focus 2 that I am 
>finishing
> >right now I'm putting the same servo on the elevator there, but you might
> >want more on the rudder.  I run the 9155 servo that is almost 200 on the
> >rudder.  How much rudder throw are you using for the snap?
> >
> >Arch
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith
> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:46 PM
> >To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> >
> >My apologies Randy. I did not realize you were referring to your elevator
> >in
> >your message.
> >
> >Ryan
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy 
>Forbus
> >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:43 PM
> >To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> >
> >I should think so to, since I read CPLR uses on a 45oz servo on his 
>planes
> >
> >
> > >From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
> > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:48:49 -0500
> > >
> > >I think the 90 oz is enough on elevator, if throw is 21 deg or so.
> > >Rudder may benefit from more power.
> > >
> > >Ron Lockhart
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ryan Smith" <smaragdz at bellsouth.net>
> > >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > >
> > >
> > > > Randy,
> > > >
> > > > That seems to be a bit of a paltry number from what I'm used to. 
>I've
> > >got
> > >a
> > > > Futaba 9151 on the rudder of my Partner, and a DS8411SA is going on 
>my
> > >Focus
> > > > II, and all of my future airplanes unless something I like better
> >comes
> > >down
> > > > the pike. The 9151 is well into the 100oz/in range in torque so you
> >may
> > >be
> > > > getting blowback.
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure of what your nomenclature for what type of Focus you
> >have,
> > >if
> > > > it means you have a Focus I fuse with Focus II wings, but I would 
>most
> > > > certainly listen to whatever suggestions Arch may have for setup.
> > > >
> > > > Take care, and good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Ryan
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy
> > >Forbus
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:29 PM
> > > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > >
> > > > I think I have enough power 90 oz in and no slop
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: ronlock at comcast.net
> > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > > > >To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:35:24 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > >You might want to check elevator throw -
> > > > >My Focus likes at least 21 degrees of elevator throw to get a clean
> > > > >break for the snap.  Also confirm no linkage flex and enough 
>elevator
> > > > >servo power.
> > > > >
> > > > >Later, Ron Lockhart
> > > > >
> > > > >-------------- Original message --------------
> > > > >From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > Balance the Easy Weigh - look in the archives, or I can email it
> >to
> > >you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
> >Randy
> > > > >Forbus
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:53 PM
> > > > > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what article, I will check it out thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Jay Marshall"
> > > > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > > > >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:46:36 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >If you have a scale and my article I put on the discussion list
> >you
> > >can
> > > > > > >calculate what to move and the effects.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > > > >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
> > >Randy
> > > > >Forbus
> > > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:40 PM
> > > > > > >To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >yeah either full left or full right full up elevator, and full
> >left
> > >or
> > > > > > >right
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >aileron, I do have to agree with you on the CG issue it 
>balances
> > >nose
> > > > >heavy
> > > > > > >if you go by the recommended CG, im going to try to move the
> > >battery
> > > > >aft,
> > > > > > >doesnt have alot of room, dont really want tp add weight to the
> > >tail,
> > > > >but
> > > > > > >will if I have to, thanks Ed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: Ed White
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > > > > >To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
> > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:15:43 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I've flown a Focus 1, and owned and flew a Focus 2 for
> > > > > > > >almost 3 seasons. Both snapped quite well on moderate
> > > > > > > >rates. Though the Focus 2 admittedly showed a
> > > > > > > >cleaner, quicker snap to the left.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >It could be CG. Where is your CG relative to the wing
> > > > > > > >tube?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Also, I'll ask this because I know a certain pilot who
> > > > > > > >is a much better than I am, but who was having a huge
> > > > > > > >problem getting his plane to negative snap, it would
> > > > > > > >just "mush over" - are you sure you are using the
> > > > > > > >correct rudder direction?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Ed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >--- Randy Forbus wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Im having trouble getting my Focus to snap, Ive been
> > > > > > > > > practicing the advanced
> > > > > > > > > ( I know Keith, I dont belong there),but anyway when
> > > > > > > > > I do the avalanch and
> > > > > > > > > the 45 degree down with a snap it just kinda mushes
> > > > > > > > > over, I think its
> > > > > > > > > because its nose heavy, have everything on high
> > > > > > > > > rates, anyone else had this
> > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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