[NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

Mon Mar 5 17:01:17 AKST 2007

Arch,

I had a 9151 on the rudder in my Focus 1.5 and you had no issues with it 
doing the entire Masters sequence. If he isn't getting a clean snap I would 
have to agree with the CG theory.

Didn't you sell your Focus II a couple years ago?

Pete

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:56
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5

> Rudder I would definitely run more.  On the elevator that is more than
> enough.  I flew the 9254 servo last year, same as CPLR, 48oz on the 
> elevator
> and had no problems on my Mantis.  Actually the Focus 2 that I am 
> finishing
> right now I'm putting the same servo on the elevator there, but you might
> want more on the rudder.  I run the 9155 servo that is almost 200 on the
> rudder.  How much rudder throw are you using for the snap?
>
> Arch
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 7:46 PM
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>
> My apologies Randy. I did not realize you were referring to your elevator 
> in
> your message.
>
> Ryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy 
> Forbus
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:43 PM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>
> I should think so to, since I read CPLR uses on a 45oz servo on his planes
>
>
>>From: "Ron Lockhart" <ronlock at comcast.net>
>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:48:49 -0500
>>
>>I think the 90 oz is enough on elevator, if throw is 21 deg or so.
>>Rudder may benefit from more power.
>>
>>Ron Lockhart
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Ryan Smith" <smaragdz at bellsouth.net>
>>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:35 PM
>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>>
>>
>> > Randy,
>> >
>> > That seems to be a bit of a paltry number from what I'm used to. I've
>>got
>>a
>> > Futaba 9151 on the rudder of my Partner, and a DS8411SA is going on my
>>Focus
>> > II, and all of my future airplanes unless something I like better comes
>>down
>> > the pike. The 9151 is well into the 100oz/in range in torque so you may
>>be
>> > getting blowback.
>> >
>> > I am not sure of what your nomenclature for what type of Focus you 
>> > have,
>>if
>> > it means you have a Focus I fuse with Focus II wings, but I would most
>> > certainly listen to whatever suggestions Arch may have for setup.
>> >
>> > Take care, and good luck!
>> >
>> > Ryan
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Randy
>>Forbus
>> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:29 PM
>> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> >
>> > I think I have enough power 90 oz in and no slop
>> >
>> >
>> > >From: ronlock at comcast.net
>> > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > >To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> > >Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 00:35:24 +0000
>> > >
>> > >You might want to check elevator throw -
>> > >My Focus likes at least 21 degrees of elevator throw to get a clean
>> > >break for the snap.  Also confirm no linkage flex and enough elevator
>> > >servo power.
>> > >
>> > >Later, Ron Lockhart
>> > >
>> > >-------------- Original message --------------
>> > >From: "Jay Marshall" <lightfoot at sc.rr.com>
>> > >
>> > > > Balance the Easy Weigh - look in the archives, or I can email it to
>>you.
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > > > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > > > Randy
>> > >Forbus
>> > > > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:53 PM
>> > > > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> > > > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> > > >
>> > > > what article, I will check it out thanks
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: "Jay Marshall"
>> > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> > > > >To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'"
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:46:36 -0500
>> > > > >
>> > > > >If you have a scale and my article I put on the discussion list 
>> > > > >you
>>can
>> > > > >calculate what to move and the effects.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >-----Original Message-----
>> > > > >From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> > > > >[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>>Randy
>> > >Forbus
>> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 6:40 PM
>> > > > >To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> > > > >
>> > > > >yeah either full left or full right full up elevator, and full 
>> > > > >left
>>or
>> > > > >right
>> > > > >
>> > > > >aileron, I do have to agree with you on the CG issue it balances
>>nose
>> > >heavy
>> > > > >if you go by the recommended CG, im going to try to move the
>>battery
>> > >aft,
>> > > > >doesnt have alot of room, dont really want tp add weight to the
>>tail,
>> > >but
>> > > > >will if I have to, thanks Ed
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >From: Ed White
>> > > > > >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> > > > > >To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> > > > > >Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Focus 1.5
>> > > > > >Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:15:43 -0800 (PST)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >I've flown a Focus 1, and owned and flew a Focus 2 for
>> > > > > >almost 3 seasons. Both snapped quite well on moderate
>> > > > > >rates. Though the Focus 2 admittedly showed a
>> > > > > >cleaner, quicker snap to the left.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >It could be CG. Where is your CG relative to the wing
>> > > > > >tube?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Also, I'll ask this because I know a certain pilot who
>> > > > > >is a much better than I am, but who was having a huge
>> > > > > >problem getting his plane to negative snap, it would
>> > > > > >just "mush over" - are you sure you are using the
>> > > > > >correct rudder direction?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >Ed
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >--- Randy Forbus wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Im having trouble getting my Focus to snap, Ive been
>> > > > > > > practicing the advanced
>> > > > > > > ( I know Keith, I dont belong there),but anyway when
>> > > > > > > I do the avalanch and
>> > > > > > > the 45 degree down with a snap it just kinda mushes
>> > > > > > > over, I think its
>> > > > > > > because its nose heavy, have everything on high
>> > > > > > > rates, anyone else had this
>> > > > > > > problem
>> > > > > > >
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