[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question

[Rcmaster199 at aol.com]

Fred, 
An out of bounds violation is scored in proportion to the amount flown out of 
bounds. We have good guidelines on how much to downgrade for such occurences. 
Please follow up in the rule book.

The element(s) should not be considered as though they didn't happen. A 
judge's responsibility in bounds violations is to continue to judge such that 
severity may be correctly assessed. Consider an end violation where the maneuver 
was started outside but was finished inside the box (and vice versa). Humptys 
are good examples of this type of violation. 

In your example, the caveat is that the judge may have had to strain so much 
that he-she had to turn away. A severe dowgrade could be warranted under such 
extremes

MattK

In a message dated 3/2/2007 9:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
fhhuber at clearwire.net writes:
would it be fair to score as if elements outside the box just didn't happen?

EG:  Avelanche... if the snap at top is outside box count it as a completely 
blown snap.  -5 points because its half of the maneuver.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Del K. Rykert 
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question


I have that click in my neck also when they get to box violation height.. lol 
  Old judging neck syndrome.. lol  <tic> 

    Del
----- Original Message ----- 
From: vicenterc at comcast.net 
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Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 2:25 PM
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Hi Dean,

I agree 100%.  Actually the 60 degree box-top violation downgrade is directly 
proportional to the paint I feel in my neck.

Vicente "Vince" Bortone



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From: "Dean Pappas" <d.pappas at kodeos.com> 

Hi Vince,
I find hiding the overall geometry by flying too large for the closeness to 
be as just as objectionable (or maybe moreso)  as flying too far out to see the 
details like wingtip wiggles etc.
Usually, the pilot who does this gives me plenty of 60 degree box-top 
violations to work with. In addition, they tend to fly poor overall geometries as 
well, because they can't see them!
The lemming-march to fly painfully close has dominated more than just a few 
nationals over the years and with the help of hidsight I can now point and 
laugh. At the time it was frustrating ...
Comments anybody else?
Dean

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
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