[NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.

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When I have chance, I fly the schedule that I am going to judge with the stick plane.  
--
Vicente "Vince" Bortone

-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Ken Thompson" <mrandmrst at comcast.net> 

> This is the reason I will not judge without a scribe, I need the scribe to 
> give me the maneuver, at least for the first couple of pilots. I don't 
> think it's fair for me to be looking at the call sheet for the next maneuver 
> while the pilot is entering or exiting an existing maneuver. 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Van Putte" 
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:12 PM 
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far. 
> 
> 
> > However, with judges taught to downgrade from what they saw, an 
> > incorrect maneuver is easy to slip in, unless the judge memorizes the 
> > maneuver schedule or there's a caller for the judges. For example, a 
> > pilot performs what's supposed to be a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 2 of 4 
> > Point Roll Up. However, he actually does a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 1/2 
> > Roll Up. Hmmmm. Looks right, but it's a zero. Many judges will 
> > miss it. 
> > 
> > Ron Van Putte 
> > 
> > On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Doug Cronkhite wrote: 
> > 
> >> There's a huge disparity between not seeing a downgrade and outright 
> >> missing someone flying the wrong maneuver. 
> >> 
> >> -Doug 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Fred Huber wrote: 
> >>> Thats actually the premise behind how we are told to judge.. 
> >>> 
> >>> If you don't see a downgrade... its a 10. 
> >>> 
> >>> ******* 
> >>> 
> >>> I couldn't get away with doing a wrong way over-rotation... I'd be 
> >>> saying 
> >>> "Oh crap!" loud enough for the judges to hear. If the pilot says 
> >>> something 
> >>> like that... you can pretty well figure he thinks he zeroed the 
> >>> maneuver. 
> >>> 
> >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>> From: "Doug Cronkhite" 
> >>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" 
> >>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:19 PM 
> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> At the TOC in 2000, on the very last flight of the event, Chip 
> >>>> had a 1 
> >>>> 1/4 positive snap to the right on a vertical downline, but he 
> >>>> instead 
> >>>> did 1 3/4 snaps to the left. Because he exited the correct 
> >>>> direction, 
> >>>> only ONE judge out of ten (Peter Wessels) caught it. The other 9 
> >>>> judges 
> >>>> gave him VERY good scores. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Don't always assume that the higher score is correct. It's entirely 
> >>>> possible they just didn't see the downgrades/mistakes made. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> -Doug 
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