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<DIV>When I have chance, I fly the schedule that I am going to judge with the stick plane. </DIV>
<DIV>--<BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Ken Thompson" <mrandmrst@comcast.net> <BR><BR>> This is the reason I will not judge without a scribe, I need the scribe to <BR>> give me the maneuver, at least for the first couple of pilots. I don't <BR>> think it's fair for me to be looking at the call sheet for the next maneuver <BR>> while the pilot is entering or exiting an existing maneuver. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: "Ron Van Putte" <VANPUTTE@COX.NET><BR>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:12 PM <BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > However, with judges taught to downgrade from what they saw, an <BR>> > incorrect maneuver is easy to slip in, unless the judge memorizes the <BR>> > mane
uver schedule or there's a caller for the judges. For example, a <BR>> > pilot performs what's supposed to be a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 2 of 4 <BR>> > Point Roll Up. However, he actually does a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 1/2 <BR>> > Roll Up. Hmmmm. Looks right, but it's a zero. Many judges will <BR>> > miss it. <BR>> > <BR>> > Ron Van Putte <BR>> > <BR>> > On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Doug Cronkhite wrote: <BR>> > <BR>> >> There's a huge disparity between not seeing a downgrade and outright <BR>> >> missing someone flying the wrong maneuver. <BR>> >> <BR>> >> -Doug <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Fred Huber wrote: <BR>> >>> Thats actually the premise behind how we are told to judge.. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> If you don't see a downgrade... its a 10. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> ******* <BR>> >>> <BR>> >&
gt;> I couldn't get away with doing a wrong way over-rotation... I'd be <BR>> >>> saying <BR>> >>> "Oh crap!" loud enough for the judges to hear. If the pilot says <BR>> >>> something <BR>> >>> like that... you can pretty well figure he thinks he zeroed the <BR>> >>> maneuver. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> >>> From: "Doug Cronkhite" <SEEFO@SAN.RR.COM><BR>> >>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <NSRCA-DISCUSSION@LISTS.NSRCA.ORG><BR>> >>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:19 PM <BR>> >>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far. <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>> <BR>> >>>> At the TOC in 2000, on the very last flight of the event, Chip <BR>> >>>> had a 1 <BR>> >>>> 1/4 positive snap to the right on a vertical downline, but he <BR>> >>>&g
t; instead <BR>> >>>> did 1 3/4 snaps to the left. Because he exited the correct <BR>> >>>> direction, <BR>> >>>> only ONE judge out of ten (Peter Wessels) caught it. The other 9 <BR>> >>>> judges <BR>> >>>> gave him VERY good scores. <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> Don't always assume that the higher score is correct. It's entirely <BR>> >>>> possible they just didn't see the downgrades/mistakes made. <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> -Doug <BR>> >>>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> >>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list <BR>> >>>> NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <BR>> >>>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> <BR>> >>>> -- <BR>> >>>> No virus found in
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