[NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.

[Ken Thompson]

This is the reason I will not judge without a scribe, I need the scribe to 
give me the maneuver, at least for the first couple of pilots.  I don't 
think it's fair for me to be looking at the call sheet for the next maneuver 
while the pilot is entering or exiting an existing maneuver.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte at cox.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.


> However, with judges taught to downgrade from what they saw, an
> incorrect maneuver is easy to slip in, unless the judge memorizes the
> maneuver schedule or there's a caller for the judges.  For example, a
> pilot performs what's supposed to be a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 2 of 4
> Point Roll Up.  However, he actually does a 1/2 Square Loop w/ 1/2
> Roll Up.  Hmmmm.  Looks right, but it's a zero.  Many judges will
> miss it.
>
> Ron Van Putte
>
> On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Doug Cronkhite wrote:
>
>> There's a huge disparity between not seeing a downgrade and outright
>> missing someone flying the wrong maneuver.
>>
>> -Doug
>>
>>
>>
>> Fred Huber wrote:
>>> Thats actually the premise behind how we are told to judge..
>>>
>>> If you don't see a downgrade... its a 10.
>>>
>>> *******
>>>
>>> I couldn't get away with doing a wrong way over-rotation... I'd be
>>> saying
>>> "Oh crap!" loud enough for the judges to hear.  If the pilot says
>>> something
>>> like that... you can pretty well figure he thinks he zeroed the
>>> maneuver.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Doug Cronkhite" <seefo at san.rr.com>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> At the TOC in 2000, on the very last flight of the event, Chip
>>>> had a 1
>>>> 1/4 positive snap to the right on a vertical downline, but he
>>>> instead
>>>> did 1 3/4 snaps to the left. Because he exited the correct
>>>> direction,
>>>> only ONE judge out of ten (Peter Wessels) caught it. The other 9
>>>> judges
>>>> gave him VERY good scores.
>>>>
>>>> Don't always assume that the higher score is correct. It's entirely
>>>> possible they just didn't see the downgrades/mistakes made.
>>>>
>>>> -Doug
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