[NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

Sun Jul 29 08:03:37 AKDT 2007

I have flown at 3 Nats and many things have changed since those days. But I still stand by my original opinion. If the current system is working and acceptable to the majority then it should continue. But I also feel strongly that a cost analysis breakdown should be provided to the membership for their review to see how and where the dollars do go. 

        Del 

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dave Lockhart 
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  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

  Del,

  The NATs were traditionally a 6 round contest..extra rounds are a bonus.

  At the NATs in 2005, all the FAI contestants were polled...and the vote was pretty close to unamimous to go with a 4 round prelims, 2 round semis, and then the 4 round finals.

  Additional rounds/flying are being flown for Masters and FAI to more accurately determine the winner.

  Position A - the NATs is better if more flights are completed.

  Position B - the NATs is better if the format is tailored to more accurately pick the best pilot as the winner in each class.

  If you want the NATs to be biased towards a social event with the most flying in the least time, vote for Position A.  If you prioritize the best pilot being selected as the National Champion, vote for Position B.

  I think if you participate in the NATs and get involved (or aware) with the details, I doubt you'd have the same conclusions.

  Regards,

  Dave

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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
  Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 7:08 PM
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  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

  Those that make it to the finals should be required to pony up for the added cost of judging and help defray the cost for the awards. applies to all classes that make it to the finals in those classes that hold finals.

      Del

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Derek Koopowitz 

    To: 'NSRCA Mailing List' 

    Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:23 AM

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

    I would argue that the FAI pilots that are not in the top 20 also don't get a fair shake - they only fly 4 rounds compared to everyone else's 6.

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    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
    Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:48 AM
    To: NSRCA Mailing List
    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

    and to add further insult to injury...  why is it that the other two classes have to pay the same price to compete at the nats but not be entitled to the same treatment?  That sure helps encourage the attitude that all members and pilots are treated as equals in all classes.. !!! 

        Del

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Fred Huber 

      To: NSRCA Mailing List 

      Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:59 PM

      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

      It would be a substantial change to the way the NATS is run...

      Are you proposing reducing the number of rounds others (the ones who don't make the finals) fly to make the time for the finals rounds?

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Robert & Casey Green 

        To: NSRCA Mailing List 

        Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:29 PM

        Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

        Wanted to run this past you all to see what your thoughts were on this.  We know that Advanced is suppose to prepare you for Masters, what if the advanced at the NATS took a similar route to what the masters does; meaning that the top 8 guys in masters get to fly in a 4 round final.  What if advanced had a 3 round final, and the best score was carried over from the previous 4 rounds.  I was thinking that this would certainly make things a little more interesting for the Adavnced folks.  Questions and comments are welcomed. 

        TIA 

        Robert

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