[NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

Sat Jul 28 08:58:04 AKDT 2007

Del,
I've flown in quite a few Nats under the current format, mostly in Masters in recent years. I made the Finals twice and didn't make the Finals way more times than that, including this year. The only time I ever felt gypped was under the old format in 1990 when time constraints resulted in the Advanced class only flying 5 rounds instead of 6. The current system really works very well for a variety of reasons. I guess it depends on your mindset. I'm going there to win. When I don't, which has been the case so far, not making the Finals and only flying 4 rounds shows me everything I need to know to get ready for next year. But that's just me. It's also great to see old friends, many of whom I only get to see at the Nats.

Verne
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Del K. Rykert 
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  Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:58 AM
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  Correct, and in the past, finals, is where most of the payments have occurred was what I was lead to believe. If those aren't the accurate facts then what the actual cost breakdowns are should be made available for all members to review every year. 

      Del

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    From: Derek Koopowitz 
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    Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:16 AM
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    Nats judges only get paid if they work more than their standard assignment (1/2 day).

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    From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Pavlick
    Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 8:36 PM
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    Uh, how much do Nat's judges get paid? I thought it was a volunteer thing. If not, where's MY check from 2006? Oh yeah, I brought my own scribe too...  <LOL>

    John Pavlick
    http://www.idseng.com

    ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Del K. Rykert 
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      Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 7:07 PM
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

      Those that make it to the finals should be required to pony up for the added cost of judging and help defray the cost for the awards. applies to all classes that make it to the finals in those classes that hold finals.

          Del
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Derek Koopowitz 
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        Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 10:23 AM
        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

        I would argue that the FAI pilots that are not in the top 20 also don't get a fair shake - they only fly 4 rounds compared to everyone else's 6.

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        From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Del K. Rykert
        Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:48 AM
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        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

        and to add further insult to injury...  why is it that the other two classes have to pay the same price to compete at the nats but not be entitled to the same treatment?  That sure helps encourage the attitude that all members and pilots are treated as equals in all classes.. !!! 

            Del
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Fred Huber 
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          Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 6:59 PM
          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

          It would be a substantial change to the way the NATS is run...

          Are you proposing reducing the number of rounds others (the ones who don't make the finals) fly to make the time for the finals rounds?
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Robert & Casey Green 
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            Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 4:29 PM
            Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question

            Wanted to run this past you all to see what your thoughts were on this.  We know that Advanced is suppose to prepare you for Masters, what if the advanced at the NATS took a similar route to what the masters does; meaning that the top 8 guys in masters get to fly in a 4 round final.  What if advanced had a 3 round final, and the best score was carried over from the previous 4 rounds.  I was thinking that this would certainly make things a little more interesting for the Adavnced folks.  Questions and comments are welcomed. 

            TIA 

            Robert

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