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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Del,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I've flown in quite a few Nats under the current format,
mostly in Masters in recent years. I made the Finals twice and didn't make the
Finals way more times than that, including this year. The only time I ever felt
gypped was under the old format in 1990 when time constraints resulted in the
Advanced class only flying 5 rounds instead of 6. The current system really
works very well for a variety of reasons. I guess it depends on your mindset.
I'm going there to win. When I don't, which has been the case so far, not making
the Finals and only flying 4 rounds shows me everything I need to know to get
ready for next year. But that's just me. It's also great to see old friends,
many of whom I only get to see at the Nats.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Verne</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=drykert2@rochester.rr.com href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">Del
K. Rykert</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:58
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
advanced question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><STRONG>Correct, and in the past,
<EM><FONT color=#800000>finals</FONT>,</EM> is where most of the payments have
occurred was what I was lead to believe. If those aren't the accurate facts
then what the actual cost breakdowns are should be made available for all
members to review every year. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <FONT
color=#0000ff><EM>Del</EM></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 28, 2007 2:16
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
advanced question</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=765201606-28072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Nats judges only get paid if they work more than their
standard assignment (1/2 day).</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Pavlick<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 8:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA
Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced
question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Uh, how much do Nat's judges get paid? I
thought it was a volunteer thing. If not, where's MY check from 2006? Oh
yeah, I brought my own scribe too... <LOL></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John Pavlick<BR><A
href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=drykert2@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">Del K. Rykert</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 7:07
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS
advanced question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><STRONG>Those that make it to
the finals should be required to pony up for the added cost of judging and
help defray the cost for the awards. applies to all classes that make it
to the finals in those classes that hold finals.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <EM><FONT
color=#0000ff>Del</FONT></EM></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 10:23
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NATS advanced question</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=781322214-27072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I would argue that the FAI pilots that are not in
the top 20 also don't get a fair shake - they only fly 4 rounds compared
to everyone else's 6.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Del K. Rykert<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 27, 2007 6:48
AM<BR><B>To:</B> NSRCA Mailing List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] NATS advanced question<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff>and to add
further insult to injury... why is it that the other two classes
have to pay the same price to compete</FONT></STRONG> <STRONG><FONT
color=#0000ff>at the nats but not be entitled to the same
treatment? That sure helps encourage the attitude that all members
and pilots are treated as equals in all classes.. !!!
</FONT></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <EM><FONT
color=#0000ff>Del</FONT></EM></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=fhhuber@clearwire.net
href="mailto:fhhuber@clearwire.net">Fred Huber</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007
6:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NATS advanced question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>It would be a substantial change to the way the NATS
is run...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Are you proposing reducing the number of rounds
others (the ones who don't make the finals) fly to make the time
for the finals rounds?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=robcase1@cox.net href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net">Robert
& Casey Green</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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List</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 26, 2007
4:29 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion]
NATS advanced question</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wanted to run this past you all to see
what your thoughts were on this. We know that Advanced is
suppose to prepare you for Masters, what if the advanced at the NATS
took a similar route to what the masters does; meaning that the top
8 guys in masters get to fly in a 4 round final.
What if advanced had a 3 round final, and the best score was
carried over from the previous 4 rounds. I was thinking
that this would certainly make things a little more
interesting for the Adavnced folks. Questions and
comments are welcomed. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TIA </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Robert</FONT></DIV>
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