[NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-12 computer science.

John Pavlick jpavlick at idseng.com
Mon Jul 2 18:16:29 AKDT 2007


OK, what does this do?

char foo(void)
{
     char cnt, num;

    for(cnt = 0, num = 0; cnt < 256; cnt++)
    {
         num++;
    }
    return num;
}

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Frederick" <mjfrederick at cox.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 4:22 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.


> I'd like to see the code myself... I've got quite a bit of Computer 
> Science
> training.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber at clearwire.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 3:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>
>
>> What computer language was the program written in?
>>
>> Send me the source code.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "W. Hinkle" <whinkle1024 at msn.com>
>> To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 10:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>
>>
>>> Dave is a good pilot but character being beyond reproach is a bit of a
>>> stretch. Ask John Glizellis about when Dave shot him down and haggled
>>> over
>>> the price. This was to replace a brand new model with less than 30
>>> flights
>>> on it at the NATS. The incident was at the NATS during practice at the
>>> AMA
>>> field. We all make mistakes, but to penny pinch the guy that just cost
>>> his
>>> new model part way through the Nationals. JR had to step in and forced
>>> the
>>> hand. If it had not been for Dave the sponsorship threat Dave would 
>>> still
>>> be
>>> argueing the price of a new built model. Dave replaced it after some
>>> debate
>>> with JR. This is not character beyond reproach? Dave may be a good guy
>>> just
>>> don't be on the same freq. He'll tell how poor your model is built and
>>> its
>>> not worth the price of a professional built kit.
>>>
>>> I'll agree that both parties in this fight are not angels. I'm not a fan
>>> or
>>> Eric's but my question to this forum
>>>
>>> Why is the NSRCA involved at all?
>>>
>>> Doesn't the NSRCA have better things to do with its time and energy than
>>> lynching a judge at the request of a couple pilots that have character
>>> beyond reproach?
>>>
>>> I feel this is another sign of the NSRCA just wasting resources, time 
>>> and
>>> money in the name of being the Savior of pattern flying. Beware people
>>> beware. Come on. Getting two of Dave's best buddies in D1 to write a
>>> program
>>> to damn a person that they and David hate with a passion. To me is 
>>> smells
>>> like old shellfish. These were the same judges who claimed in the past
>>> the
>>> judge that gave the zero was the one that got it right.
>>>
>>> The NSRCA has no business in this arena. I find it appalling the Board
>>> even
>>> had this on the agenda. I also find it appalling that a ruling was made,
>>> then Eric was notified of the charges and the conviction. As Eric 
>>> stated,
>>> no
>>> statistics can determine what the judge actually saw or better yet what
>>> the
>>> pilot actually flew. So Eric's scores were below the average for a given
>>> pilot. Maybe the pilot flew below average in Eric's eyes. This is why 
>>> the
>>> NATS uses more than one judge. This is a fact of life. This looks very
>>> one
>>> sided by the NSRCA.
>>>
>>> The NSRCA has no place in this squabble.
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "John Pavlick" <jpavlick at idseng.com>
>>>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>>>Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:27:00 -0400
>>>>
>>>>Len,
>>>>  All of the people involved were from D1 - I thought the good ol' boys
>>>>were in D2 and D3! <LOL>
>>>>
>>>>John Pavlick
>>>>http://www.idseng.com
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: Leonard Rudy
>>>>   To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:47 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   John,
>>>>
>>>>        The conflict may have blossomed like a Hockey Game Conflict, but
>>>> in
>>>>the NHL
>>>>   those "with the power" hear both sides and let each side present 
>>>> their
>>>>case before
>>>>   the powers to be assign penalties.  After the penalties are imposed,
>>>> the
>>>>player or
>>>>   individual still has the right to appeal the decision.
>>>>        You say Eric should take whatever the powers to be want and 
>>>> don't
>>>>make any
>>>>   noise or waves.
>>>>        This is a clear message to others who will be judging at meets 
>>>> in
>>>>the future.  DO NOT GIVE THE GOOD OLD BOYS GROUP any low or bad scores 
>>>>or
>>>>you may be on the receiving end of some form of penalty that you will 
>>>>not
>>>>like.
>>>>
>>>>   Len Rudy
>>>>     "Life is easier if you learn to plow around the stumps" or in other
>>>>words, do not
>>>>   hand out low scores to the Good Old Boys or you will pay dearly for 
>>>> it
>>>>one way or
>>>>   another.
>>>>
>>>>   Fred Huber <fhhuber at clearwire.net> wrote:
>>>>     The penalty does not appear appropriate...
>>>>
>>>>     It also sounds like it was not applied in a manner consistant with
>>>> the
>>>>rules system.
>>>>       ----- Original Message -----
>>>>       From: John Ferrell
>>>>       To: Don Ramsey ; NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>       Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:12 AM
>>>>       Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>       I have the good fortune to not be involved in this dispute. I am
>>>>only aware of the conflict.
>>>>
>>>>       Not being very good at staying out of arguments, I offer the
>>>>following observations:
>>>>       A heated difference of opinions occurred.
>>>>       Every one involved is considered a valuable asset to the Pattern
>>>>Game.
>>>>       Things were said that should not have been said.
>>>>       Every one thinks they are right.
>>>>       There was probably at least one (or may be several) bad call(s) 
>>>> by
>>>>some one.
>>>>
>>>>       The conflict blossomed like a Hockey Game Conflict and the net
>>>>result was those with the power and responsibility treated it like a
>>>>Hockey
>>>>Game Conflict! A serious "time out" was assigned to the individual at 
>>>>the
>>>>focal point of the conflict. It was their duty to put the problem on 
>>>>ice.
>>>>
>>>>       The expectations of the rest of us who value the game and its
>>>>players is that right or wrong the referee's call must be honored. The
>>>>referee has the power to impose further penalties if the individual
>>>>continues to make waves. Right or wrong, this is the was disputes are
>>>>handled in the world of competition.
>>>>
>>>>       If the individual was drawn into the conflict by goading it is
>>>> still
>>>>he who gets the penalty.
>>>>
>>>>       Conflict resolution is not something that is natural to the human
>>>>condition. Conflict is.
>>>>
>>>>       Eric needs to take the penalty and get on with things.Those in
>>>> power
>>>>need to accept that the penalty has been applied and to continue the
>>>>game.
>>>>
>>>>       WE ALL need to be aware that we either play nice or get sent to
>>>> the
>>>>showers!
>>>>
>>>>       Another factor to consider is that the higher profile one 
>>>> achieves
>>>>in this sport the greater the need to hold that individual to higher
>>>>standards.
>>>>       Eric is certainly a "high profile" player.
>>>>
>>>>       John Ferrell    W8CCW
>>>>       "Life is easier if you learn to plow
>>>>              around the stumps"
>>>>       http://DixieNC.US
>>>>
>>>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>>>         From: Don Ramsey
>>>>         To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>         Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 7:32 PM
>>>>         Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Chapter-5 Going too far.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I would like to thank Eric for the nice complement in his
>>>> comment,
>>>>"To circumvent this conflict of interest problem and to keep the
>>>>Nationals
>>>>above reproach, I steeped out of line and asked Don Ramsey to
>>>>independently
>>>>choose the judges, Dave could not refuse this method, but I will tell 
>>>>you
>>>>that he got extremely mad at me for doing it."
>>>>
>>>>         I must respond that for good or bad I've been choosing the
>>>> finals
>>>>judges for many years.  I started that process when Jeff Hill was Event
>>>>Director.  It must also be stated that I've never had any pressure of 
>>>>any
>>>>kind from contest management regarding who I choose to judge.  I try to
>>>>pick the best candidates and rotate those so no single judge can
>>>>influence
>>>>the outcome extradionarly.
>>>>
>>>>         Don
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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