[NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
jivey61 at bellsouth.net
jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Mon Jan 15 17:34:31 AKST 2007
Dwayne
I change the brass tubing in the tanks to aluminum tubing...solves this
problem and is lighter.FWIW you can change the fuel line between the tank
and engine firewall to aluminum tubing and that is lighter than fuel line
also.
Jim Ivey
----- Original Message -----
From: "dwaynenancy" <dwaynenancy at cox.net>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> I had the same problem. Cause was the corroded brass pickup. I've now
> use only the sintered bronze pickup from DuBro. The only problem with
> it is that it still has brass tubing but that could be covered by fuel
> tubing. Still need to check it once in awhile. Dwayne
>
> jivey61 at bellsouth.net wrote:
>
> > Peter
> > I had fuel trouble 1.5 years ago and my problem was the can I was
> > pouring fuel into to pump it into the fuel tank.
> > Something in the tank was growing and contaminating the fuel.I lost
> > most of the flying season twiddling and tweaking.I found my problem
> > when I tried flying both my planes in the same day. I realized both
> > had the same trouble and the only common thing was the fuel out of the
> > fill can.
> > From now own I pump fuel out of the plastic jug and have not had
> > problem since.
> > Do you pump out of the jugs? Hope this idea helps.
> >
> > Jim Ivey
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Peter Pennisi <mailto:pentagon.systems at bigpond.com>
> > *To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List' <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> > *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2007 1:06 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> >
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> >
> >
> > I did try the run the suspect fuel in my DZ 160 as well as my heli
> > and I had problems with both. As suggested the engine at WOT
> > seemed to run fine but neither engine would idle or transition
> > reliably. I replaced plugs and stuffed around with tuning and even
> > swapped an engine out until I worked out the fuel was the problem.
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks as if the fuel will be destined for the garden shed. 30%
> > glow fuel is an excellent igniter for weed eaters which are
> > stubborn to start. Throw a little down the throttle barrel and the
> > unit roars to life on the first pull start every time guaranteed.
> > I even tried to run it on this stuff some time ago but that is a
> > different story.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you all for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > *From:* nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] *On Behalf Of
> > *rcmaster199 at aol.com
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 16 January 2007 03:43 AM
> > *To:* nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> >
> >
> >
> > No it does not. Water is totally miscible in the methanol and will
> > not come out of solution. Methanol could be dried using silica
> > gel, an industrial desiccant, by passing the fuel through a
> > filtering bed containing the desiccant.
> >
> >
> >
> > There was a study done a few years ago by Joe Wagner
> >
> > or Peter Chinn I believe (noted engine men) who added a
> > considerable percentage to regular model fuel and got surprising
> > results....the engine produced more power. The theory was that
> > oxygen available from the decomposition of water was available for
> > more complete combustion of the fuel. Of course, that's at full
> > throttle.....I would question the transition qualities of any
> > water containing fuel, and transition is what we drive for most.
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete, if you haven't done it yet, it would be worthwhile to
> > actually run the stuff before making any decisions as to what to
> > do next
> >
> >
> >
> > MattK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: patterndude at tx.rr.com
> > To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
> > Sent: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 1:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> >
> > Does this really work? The water that is in solution will
> > separate and freeze?
> >
> > --Lance
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* _Koenig, Tom_
> >
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> >
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> >
> > *Sent:* Sunday, January 14, 2007 4:23 PM
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter,
> >
> >
> >
> > Stick it in the freezer. The water will freeze, just skim it
off.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* _nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org_
> >
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> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]*On Behalf Of
> > *Peter Pennisi
> > *Sent:* Monday, 15 January 2007 9:11 AM
> > *To:* 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> > *Subject:* [NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel
> >
> > I have 4 gallons of 30% nitro fuel which was mixed
> > with bad Methanol (unknown at the time) the rest of
> > the ingredients were fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > I am assuming that moisture may have got the drum of
> > methanol but I am not sure.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is there anything I can do to recover this fuel for at
> > least sport plane use or do I count my losses and
> > throw it out?
> >
> >
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