[NSRCA-discussion] Smaller Models

Thu Jan 4 08:49:39 AKST 2007

spbyrum at hiwaay.net

Some modified SPA in Nebraska.  Fly SPA patterns with any plane giving a 10%
bonus for SPA legal.

Steve Byrum 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Terry Brox
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Hi Steve,

         What is your email addy? I think there has been some talk of SPA in
Nebraska, or at one time there was.

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From: Steve Byrum <mailto:spbyrum at hiwaay.net>  

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:32 AM

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Terry

Please email me off list.  There is rapidly growing SPA interest Arkansas.

Steve Byrum 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Terry Brox
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:24 AM
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Our club once held what was called a retro pattern contest. We used an old
rule  book from around 1981 if memory serves correctly. We just stayed with
everything as it was described.  The only issue I have with

SPA is you cannot equip all planes as they were originally designed and
flown. Another thing is, I wish I were closer to the Southeast so I can
participate in SPA activities.  Terry

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From: Earl Haury <mailto:ehaury at houston.rr.com>  

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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 5:40 AM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Smaller Models

Interesting indeed - a local club is considering holding a "ole fashion"
pattern contest this fall. The plan is to fly pre-turnaround pattern. Not
sure exactly what the rules will be - but not SPA, as the intent is to allow
'70's - '80's airplanes with piped engines & retracts (one member mentioned
a Brushfire with piped Jett 90). 

I'm very comfortable with pattern as it is - however, there is a gap between
current pattern and SPA that many seem interested in.

Earl

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From: Koenig, Tom <mailto:Tom.Koenig at actewagl.com.au>  

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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 7:16 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Smaller Models

Guys-there are many of us that reminisce about the 'simpler' days of the 60
size models, even down here!

I mentioned recently to some locals that I may hold a comp similar to your
SPA stuff. I considered just allowing 60 size models as a max, never mind
all the vintage rules etc.....I was SWAMPED with interest. There were all
sorts of ex pattern pilots ready to show up. I think I'd have had 40 -50
possible entries!!!

Not trying to stir things up-but it is interesting nonetheless.

Tom

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ron Lockhart
Sent: Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:31 AM
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Yea, smaller has a number of advantages.   

 A reduction in money, time, hassle factor, etc., of models is a thought
toward increased participation.

(Yea, I know the established pilots, and new pilots, are allowed to fly
smaller models right now.  But we have a 

lot of history  that shows Dean's comment "Given that everyone will build or
buy up to the maximum size limit" is true.

How does that Dixie thing go?....<G>

Ron Lockhart

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From: Dean Pappas <mailto:d.pappas at kodeos.com>  

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Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2007 4:51 PM

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Hi John,

A year or so ago, I puit together an Excelleron 90 for a review and eventual
sale to a newbie.

Boy! Was it nice to drop a plane into the minivan in one piece!

It was almost as good as when a Phoenix 8 would fit into the back of a
hatchback Camaro in one piece.

Given that everyone will build or buy up to the maximum size limit,

is there a good enough reason to push on the rules bodies to legislate
Pattern plane sizes back down?

How about 1.6 or 1.7 meters square?

Will this affect cost and complexity enough to have a beneficial effect on
participation?

Or am I just whistling Dixie?

later,

Dean

Dean Pappas 
Sr. Design Engineer 
Kodeos Communications 
111 Corporate Blvd. 
South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
(908) 222-7817 phone 
(908) 222-2392 fax 
d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of John Ferrell
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There seems to be a growing trend toward smaller airplanes among a lot of
folks. I sure am enjoying the 90 size Boxer I bought from Ed Miller last
summer. Less hassle to transport, assemble and fly. That means I can fly
more!

John Ferrell    W8CCW
"My Competition is not my enemy"
http://DixieNC.US

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