[NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
Del K. Rykert
drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
Tue Jan 2 14:50:50 AKST 2007
First I think we have to ask ourselves do we need or want to keep the casual
competitors involved?
My thoughts are if the NSRCA wants to encourage or cater to the casual
competitors they have to change their mind set. As it stands they discourage
and have driven away most of the casual pattern flyers. In my mind that is
the biggest pool of people to build from as others are happy in their
competitive niches they have found.
1. Nats competitors pay / class. If a class has finals and flyoffs why
should Intermediate and Advanced help foot the bill? Prorate the
registration fee based on class and potential number of flights that
competitor could fly if they are superb flyer. Masters and FAI pay a higher
fee than Intermediate and Advanced. They require more work and cost more to
the organization to do thus should pay a fairer share of the Nats.
2. Competitors that do belong to NSRCA should get a price reduction of
at least $5.00 at local meets and maybe $10.00 at Nats.
3. People who are qualified NSRCA judges should be automatically entered
to win a significant door/entry prize providing they do judge a minimum of 1
round. Would love to give them price break also for making the extra effort
to be competent judge but feel that's to big a headache to do.
Those that don't want to support the NSRCA and all the hard work that is
done to promote and help the SIG shouldn't get a free ride.
To late to go back, but changes that make it harder for the casual flyer
to participate are going to keep or drive them away. Whether demands in
time/money/obsolete equipment, all take their toll. Schedules in lower
classes should only be changed every 3 years. Easier on judges and causal
competitors. Many of my friends over the years that have left have been
casual competitors and time demands took them away from the sport. If NSRCA
wants to stay focused on being the best and most competent flyers only then
stay the course. My feeling is the Sportsman, Intermediate and Advanced that
shouldn't be the case. I would even prefer a ban of any sort of sponsorship
in these classes also.
If you care to reply directly to not clog the list with my banter.
Del K. Rykert
E-mail Address(es):
drykert2 at rochester.rr.com
If you have something constructive that may be enlightening to the group
please respond to the list. Myopic views aren't seeing the problem. Think of
the poor schmuck who has no coach, no pattern club or pattern flyers to use
as a support network. Then think what they have to address to enter and play
in this SIG. Then maybe.. just MAYBE you can understand the whole issue and
picture from the perspective I am trying to convey.
This is purely meant as food for thought and not attacking anyone's great
work or efforts to date leading and promoting the sport. I am not suggesting
this changes will be agreeable or practical to all but my view is it should
help the casual competitor if this SIG would like to encourage and keep some
of them as they do help support with their judging time, financial support
to events that are barely drawing enough interest to keep contests on the
schedule. Some clubs have dropped pattern event d/t lack of entrants. Clubs
get tired of giving up and weekend and losing money to boot.
Del
nsrca - 473
AMA - 8928
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Kane" <getterflash at yahoo.com>
To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
> So what do you suggest?
>
> Bob Kane
> getterflash at yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Del K. Rykert <drykert2 at rochester.rr.com>
> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:37:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>
>
> Derek.
> I believe the NSRCA should be looking at the last 10 years as the
> measure to see how things are improving. Speaking in generalities this SIG
> has been in declining status for most part since this sport has become
> dramatically more expensive and takes gobs more time to be involved in.
> The
> days of flying 40 size models are no longer viable. 60 size models are no
> longer competitive. Competitors have to learn to be a competent judge as
> well as a good mechanic / flyer and possibly builder if they choose to.
> All these factors do force the realization that this sport is no longer
> willing to encourage or listen to the causal competitor.
>
> Del
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Derek Koopowitz" <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2006 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>
>
>> Actually membership is up over the last couple of years but we do have a
>> lot
>> of work ahead of us - it will be challenging to all of us, not just the
>> board, but for all members. One of my goals is to increase revenue with
>> the
>> K-Factor but I need someone for the Advertising Manager position - this
>> person must be passionate about this sport and must be a good
>> communicator -
>> someone that can solicit new advertising to help build it up slowly. We
>> did
>> pick up a couple of new advertisers in 2006 - I think we can pick up a
>> couple more new advertisers in the next few months. If anyone has an
>> interest in being our Ad Manager please contact me ASAP.
>>
>> Wayne, I'm sorry to hear that you won't renew your membership - hopefully
>> you'll change your mind in the near future. As to what I will do to get
>> us
>> out of this pickle? We ALL have to do something. This is not something
>> that any one person can fix - if I could wave a magic wand, I would.
>> We'll
>> take the necessary steps on getting our finances in order - let me tell
>> you
>> that it won't take much to see a difference.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Wayne
>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 6:17 PM
>> To: NSRCA Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>
>> Don't worry Paul it wasn't announced in the KF either!
>>
>> So you didn't miss anything.
>>
>> I understand the need for increased dues. I also understand the need for
>> the
>> NSRCA to give us something in return for our support. Today I don't see
>> much
>> going on to PROMOTE pattern. While I wish to support pattern and promote
>> it
>> I will take my $40 and spend it on attendance at an event rather than the
>> NSRCA.
>>
>> Sorry but poor management of more of our funds are not going to get it
>> done.
>>
>> 2 years ago when folks asked questions of Derek and Lamar the bank
>> account
>> was sitting on a surplus of about $12,000 or so. If I remember the
>> numbers
>> correctly. I'm going to go find the old KF that had this number in it.
>> Rusty
>> Dose tells us last month that we are down over $15,000 is dues and
>> advertising revenue. Looks to me like this has been a sinking ship for
>> some
>> time. The very fact that I received a renewal notice with the $40 price
>> tag
>> on it a full week before we heard about it from the board is another sign
>> of
>> mismanagement. A 30% increase in dues just because there has not been a
>> increase in many years is not the solution to our problems. Where is the
>> 30%
>> increase going to help support precision aerobatics.
>>
>> I think that with all products and services in the market place today the
>> NSRCA needs to show some value to the modelers out there. If this happens
>> then membership will grow. Revenue will increase. And Pattern flying will
>> prosper. I feel that I and other vote with our pocket books. The reason
>> advertising dollars are down, the reason dues dollars are down is due
>> directly to the product supplied.
>>
>> Perhaps the NSRCA leadership is listening but instead we talk about what
>> a
>> great job has been done and how far we have come. I'm not into bashing
>> the
>> guy that just left but Derek we have seen nothing about how to get us out
>> of
>> this pickle we are in. Therefore I elect not to renew at this time. I
>> think
>> there are better places to spend our money to support Precision
>> Aerobatics.
>>
>>
>>
>> Wayne
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul Brine" <pbrine at uoguelph.ca>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>
>>
>>> It also wasn't announced to the membership until Dec 22nd via Lamar's
>>> email.
>>> Remember not everyone (ie myself ) is in a position to download and read
>>> the
>>> k-factor on-line.
>>>
>>> Applying the increase to those who renewed before then is like you
>>> signing
>>> on the line to buy a car and being told a week later by the dealer that
>>> the
>>> price went up a $1000.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Martin X. Moleski, SJ <moleski at canisius.edu>
>>> To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 1:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA Dues Increase
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anthony Abdullah wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Silly quesion:
>>>>
>>>> > After a long pattern lay off for grad school and such I am returning
>>>> > in
>>>> > full force. Part of that included renewing my NSRCA membership. When
>>>> > I
>>>> > downloaded and printed the form from the NSRCA website the dues was
>>>> > listed as $30.00 and that is how much the check was written for (just
>>>> > two days ago). Do I need to send an additional check for $10.00 or is
>>>> > the price increse effective Jan 1?
>>>>
>>>> There was a missed communication between Lamar and myself early in
>>>> December, so I didn't hear about the change in dues until two or
>>>> three days ago.
>>>>
>>>> The law is probably on your side, if you want to take the time
>>>> to take it to court.
>>>>
>>>> It would be a huge kindness to simply send along another $10 check.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the forms have all been updated.
>>>>
>>>> I'm hoping to work on the Paypal front end over this vacation.
>>>> It hasn't been satisfactory for a couple of years ... my bad.
>>>>
>>>> Marty
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