[NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question

Fred Huber fhhuber at clearwire.net
Wed Feb 28 17:46:10 AKST 2007


I caught all kinds of flack at  judging training session for downgrading because a VERY well known pilit did a blazing fast 4-point....

All other judge trainees said 10... I said 0... the points weren't full stops.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gene Maurice 
  To: randy10926 at comtekmail.com ; 'NSRCA Mailing List' 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question


  If the points are so fast as to make it indiscernible what angle they occurred at, then I would tend to doubt whether the point occurred at all. Score 0. It is the pilot's responsibility to present the maneuver in such a manner to demonstrate that the maneuver has in fact been done according to the rules. I sincerely doubt that a 4 point can be done in 1.25 seconds with defined stops in the roll every 90 degrees. But it remains that if, as a judge, you cannot clearly see the relevant elements of any maneuver being performed, then you should assume that IT HAS NOT been performed. The elements must be demonstrated not assumed. 

   

  Don Ramsey, can you clarify?

   

  Gene Maurice
  gene.maurice at sgmservice.com
  Plano, TX
  AMA 3408, NSRCA 877


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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Glenn Hatfield
  Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 10:24 AM
  To: nsrca-discuss list 
  Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging Question

   

  Ok time to get back to our favorite list questions.

  This comes from a real life judging problem.  The question is about the 4-point roll.  This what I am seeing.  A 4 point roll that takes less than 1.25 second to complete.  You can see 4 very short pauses.  The manever appears to be centered.  I see no change in height or coming in or out.  It appears to be between 150M and 175M.  But the pauses are so short that I cannot really tell if the rolls between pauses are 90 degrees.  So I cannot see what the 1 point per 15 degree down grade should be.


  What would you do?


  Randy



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