[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern

Fri Dec 21 16:24:41 AKST 2007

There is still a problem with the trainer system on the 14 MZ..  If the 14
MZ is to be used as the master for the other person's trainer radio, the
channels have to be configured to match.  This is usually different from the
preferred default configuration of the 14MZ channel groupings.  No big deal
for the average trainer setup but I wanted to give my son some stick time on
my pattern plane via a trainer.  The only way to do this is to change the
channel assignments on the 14 MZ to match the default of the other
transmitter which could not be matched to the 14MZ.  There should be an
ability to map the channels as needed when using the trainer mode.

Stuart C.

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of John Pavlick
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 7:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern

Bob,

 Futaba already has that type of trainer functionality on the 9C, 12FG, 12Z
and most likely the 14Mz (FUNC mode). What transmitter are you using? 

Radio System FAQ

I want to use my radio with a student's radio. How can I let the student use
all of the programming, mixes, etc that my radio has to offer? 

___ 1.

First turn on the student radio. If it is a computerized radio, choose a
clean model using the default settings of 100% on throws (ATV/EPA). 

___ 2.

Turn the student radio off and turn on the 9C. 

___ 3.

>From the BASIC programming menu, select TRAINER 

___ 4.

Turn Dial left to activate trainer (the display changes from INH (inhibited)
to OFF if trainer switch is not pulled or ON if switch is pulled.) 

___ 5.

Press the Cursor Down button once to move to programming aileron. You'll see
AIL and FUNC (function). To give the student the same programming as the
master, stay with FUNC. You can also press turn Dial Left which takes you to
NORM (the student radio now sets rates, throws, mixes, etc), or OFF (which
doesn't allow the student to use this channel. This is often used to keep a
student from having throttle control so the instructor can control the
plane's airspeed, or other functions.) 

___ 6.

Cursor through the aileron, throttle, elevator, and rudder controls, and
confirm they are all to FUNC, or set them to fit your custom needs (by
default, channel 5 through 8 are OFF, but can be changed if desired for
another application). 

___ 7.

Next plug up the buddy box, and turn on the plane, set the MASTER
transmitter on LOW rates, and match the surface throws (both direction and
amount) using the ATV function on the BUDDY BOX. On low rate, you should be
able to hold full up elevator on both the master box and the buddy box, and
when flipping the trainer switch, see ZERO movement on the elevator. The
same applies to the rudder, the throttle, and the aileron. 

Now, when you pull the switch to give the buddy box control, the transmitter
takes the buddy box stick movements and adds any mixes, expo, etc. that
you've programmed into the Master. NOTE: while the student is in control, if
high rates are desired, the appropriate switch on the MASTER box has to be
pulled. 

THATS IT!

John Pavlick
http://www.idseng.com

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Bob Richards <mailto:bob at toprudder.com>  

To: NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>  

Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 5:56 PM

Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern

Ok, my 2CW.

I really like the idea of the USB connector. Hmmm, not a new idea, really, I
could do that with my Ace Micropro back in 1992. Could save all the airplane
programs onto computer disk via a serial port. Could pull up the program
information on the computer and edit the values (although it was not a GUI
interface, it was still nice).

Another thing would be program independent buddy box capability. In other
words, the slave transmitter need only to send the stick positions to the
master radio. That information would then be applied to the program in the
master radio. No need to make sure the slave and master radios are operating
with the same program. Hmmm, again, not really a new idea, I could do that
with the Micropro radio back in 1992. :-)

Autotrim. Lets say you have just taken off with an airplane that is out of
trim. Instead of fumbling around for multiple trim levers (or buttons) you
just press one button and keep flying the plane straight and level. The
autotrim function will apply trim changes automatically to any of the the
three flight channels so that the sticks slowly move back to neutral. Again,
the Micropro had that feature.

I liked a lot of the features of the old Micropro radio, my big complaint
was that it was only 256 resolution. That alone was reason not to use it in
pattern.

As for the 2.4 ghz using the internal antenna connection, that is not likely
to happen on the old radios. I like the fact that I can swap the module with
a 72 mhz module and not have to fumble with mounting an antenna with an
external cable.

I have flown Futaba for over 20 years, and have had good service. However, I
wish there was better support/marketing in my area of the country. We had a
huge fly-in last year (Fly-for-Tots) with over 200 registered pilots.
Horizon/JR sent lots of stuff, including sponsered pilots to fly demos.
Futaba did send a couple of flags and items for the raffle, but it was a
hugh disparity with what Horizon/JR did. I am in a distinct minority in my
club since most of the guys fly JR, so I caught a lot of crap as a result.

Just my 2CW.

Bob R.

Derek Koopowitz <derekkoopowitz at gmail.com> wrote:

Futaba is looking for some new product ideas for upcoming equipment and they
are interested in seeing what ideas we all have for the pattern arena that
could be new and inventive.  This could be anything from updating current
equipment to new product development. 

If you could put some thoughts together in an email to me, I'll make sure
that they're sent to Futaba USA's attention.   I'll need to have this back
no later than the end of the year!

Thanks!

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