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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is still a problem with the trainer
system on the 14 MZ.. If the 14 MZ is to be used as the master for the
other person’s trainer radio, the channels have to be configured to
match. This is usually different from the preferred default configuration
of the 14MZ channel groupings. No big deal for the average trainer setup
but I wanted to give my son some stick time on my pattern plane via a
trainer. The only way to do this is to change the channel assignments on
the 14 MZ to match the default of the other transmitter which could not be
matched to the 14MZ. There should be an ability to map the channels as
needed when using the trainer mode.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Pavlick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 21, 2007
7:30 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Futaba and pattern</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Bob,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> Futaba already has that type of trainer
functionality on the 9C, 12FG, 12Z and most likely the 14Mz (FUNC mode).
What transmitter are you using? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<h2 align=center style='text-align:center'><b><font size=5 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Radio System FAQ<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><!--<h2 align="center">9C Radio System FAQ</h2>-->I
want to use my radio with a student's radio. How can I let the student use all
of the programming, mixes, etc that my radio has to offer?</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 1.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>First turn on the student radio. If it is a
computerized radio, choose a clean model using the default settings of 100%
on throws (ATV/EPA). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 2.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Turn the student radio off and turn on the 9C. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>From the BASIC programming menu, select TRAINER <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 4.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Turn Dial left to activate trainer (the display
changes from INH (inhibited) to OFF if trainer switch is not pulled or ON if
switch is pulled.) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 5.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Press the Cursor Down button once to move to
programming aileron. You'll see AIL and FUNC (function). To give the student
the same programming as the master, stay with FUNC. You can also press turn
Dial Left which takes you to NORM (the student radio now sets rates, throws,
mixes, etc), or OFF (which doesn't allow the student to use this channel.
This is often used to keep a student from having throttle control so the
instructor can control the plane's airspeed, or other functions.) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 6.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Cursor through the aileron, throttle, elevator, and
rudder controls, and confirm they are all to FUNC, or set them to fit your
custom needs (by default, channel 5 through 8 are OFF, but can be changed if
desired for another application). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'>___ 7.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Next plug up the buddy box, and turn on the plane,
set the MASTER transmitter on LOW rates, and match the surface throws (both
direction and amount) using the ATV function on the BUDDY BOX. On low rate,
you should be able to hold full up elevator on both the master box and the
buddy box, and when flipping the trainer switch, see ZERO movement on the
elevator. The same applies to the rudder, the throttle, and the aileron. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Now,
when you pull the switch to give the buddy box control, the transmitter takes
the buddy box stick movements and adds any mixes, expo, etc. that you've
programmed into the Master. NOTE: while the student is in control, if high
rates are desired, the appropriate switch on the MASTER box has to be pulled. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>THATS
IT!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>John Pavlick<br>
<a href="http://www.idseng.com">http://www.idseng.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA Mailing List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday, December 21,
2007 5:56 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Futaba and pattern<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Ok, my 2CW.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I really like the idea of the USB connector. Hmmm, not a new idea,
really, I could do that with my Ace Micropro back in 1992. Could save all the airplane
programs onto computer disk via a serial port. Could pull up the program
information on the computer and edit the values (although it was not a GUI
interface, it was still nice).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Another thing would be program independent buddy box capability. In
other words, the slave transmitter need only to send the stick positions to the
master radio. That information would then be applied to the program in the
master radio. No need to make sure the slave and master radios are operating
with the same program. Hmmm, again, not really a new idea, I could do that with
the Micropro radio back in 1992. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Autotrim. Lets say you have just taken off with an airplane that is out
of trim. Instead of fumbling around for multiple trim levers (or buttons) you
just press one button and keep flying the plane straight and level. The
autotrim function will apply trim changes automatically to any of the the three
flight channels so that the sticks slowly move back to neutral. Again, the
Micropro had that feature.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I liked a lot of the features of the old Micropro radio, my big
complaint was that it was only 256 resolution. That alone was reason not to use
it in pattern.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As for the 2.4 ghz using the internal antenna connection, that is not
likely to happen on the old radios. I like the fact that I can swap the module
with a 72 mhz module and not have to fumble with mounting an antenna with an
external cable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I have flown Futaba for over 20 years, and have had good service.
However, I wish there was better support/marketing in my area of the country.
We had a huge fly-in last year (Fly-for-Tots) with over 200 registered pilots.
Horizon/JR sent lots of stuff, including sponsered pilots to fly demos. Futaba
did send a couple of flags and items for the raffle, but it was a hugh
disparity with what Horizon/JR did. I am in a distinct minority in my club
since most of the guys fly JR, so I caught a lot of crap as a result.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Just my 2CW.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Derek Koopowitz
<derekkoopowitz@gmail.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Futaba is looking for some new product ideas for upcoming equipment and
they are interested in seeing what ideas we all have for the pattern arena
that could be new and inventive. This could be anything from updating
current equipment to new product development. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>If you could put some thoughts together in an email to me, I'll make
sure that they're sent to Futaba <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">USA</st1:place></st1:country-region>'s attention. I'll
need to have this back no later than the end of the year!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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