[NSRCA-discussion] Metal Servo Arms

[J N Hiller]

Hi Guys, I just returned from the hobby shop. While there I checked JR
servos and arms. They too appear to use a odd number spline as the arm
position will migrate slightly as it is rotated 90 degrees however it is a
smaller diameter (about .223”) than the Futaba. The hobby shop proprietor
tells me there are three different output shafts used not counting the small
servos, Hitec, JR and Futaba.
Jim Hiller


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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of J N Hiller
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 2:44 PM
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Hi all I failed to give you guys the whole story on mismatched splines
earlier, sorry.
The Futaba output shaft (25 groove) measures about .235” dia and the other
one with a 24 groove spline in .225” diameter. The Futaba or Futaba
compatible arm will go on the 24-spline shaft and feel snug, not quite right
but snug. It will most likely slip a spline under load especially if it is
bumped. I am far from an expert on this but to my knowledge Futaba and
Futaba copies are the only 25-spline servos.
Jim Hiller


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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of J N Hiller
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Ron sounds like you may have experienced the even / odd number splines
mismatch being used by different manufacturers or manufacturing tolerance
extremes.
Futaba began using a 25-spline (I counted them 3 times) drive about 20 years
ago allowing a 1/4 spline offset (3.6 degrees) with each approximately 90
rotation. Being a long time Futaba user I was especially impressed with this
change from the previous octagon drive. It greatly enhanced fine tuning arm
to pushrod angles for differential travel. In recent years I have purchased
other brand servos with an even number spline and found that different
servos sold under the same label have a Futaba compatible spline. Normally
the even / odd splines will not even start to assemble but extreme
manufacturing variations may allow mismatched parts to be assembled. I don’t
know if any of the manufacturers conform to a “Standard” or if there is one
and if a manufacturer reverse engineers a product to obtain a dimensional
basis for their product it is easy to deviate from the intended mean
dimension, especially when working with injection molded plastic parts
subject to shrinkage. The aluminum arms are ‘dimensionally stable’ and may
be intentionally sized to be on the tight side to accommodate shrinkage
variations associated with non-stable plastic parts. Better tight than
loose. There appears to be enough inconsistency to warrant a fair amount of
skepticism when mixing brands and needs to be checked every time.
What a pain. I am migrating back to using all Futaba servos.
Jim Hiller

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Ron Van Putte
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:57 AM
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I know you ordered JR arms for JR servos, but be careful that you don't
mistake "tight" with "too tight".  I made the mistake of trying to use a
Futaba servo arm on a Hitec 5625MG digital elevator servo.  The arm seemed
to fit fine because it was "tight" on the servo.  A couple of flights later,
I discovered dramatic elevator trim changes.  The Futaba servo arm was
slipping on the Hitec servo's output shaft.  Wasn't fun.

Ron Van Putte

On Aug 30, 2007, at 8:36 AM, k6xyz wrote:



I had the same trouble with these arms.
It seems that the spline in the arm is the right size, but it has debris or
something in there…anyway, I was able to pick out some of the loose ‘stuff’
in the spline and it went on easier but I think it is still too tight.

Regards

Dave Harmon
NSRCA 586
K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net
Sperry, Ok.
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Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Metal Servo Arms

I bought some Hanger 9 alum servo arms and when I put them on they are VERY
hard to get to pull down on to the servo. Is this normal? They don’t go down
as far as the plastic arms do. They are stamped with a J on the bottom so I
assume they’re made for JR servo’s.

Tim
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