[NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome? Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
John Gayer
jgghome at comcast.net
Wed Aug 22 17:06:48 AKDT 2007
Del,
Having sold advertising(a lot) when I ran a radio station, I can tell
you that the customers need to be constantly resold on a product that is
clearly in their best interests.
This also means selling on the basis that the advertising works, not as
charity support for the NSRCA. Feedback to the advertisers is also key
to keeping an advertiser on-board. We as members need find a way to
mention the K-Factor whenever you buy something and to make sure that
you know who is currrently advertising.
John
Del K. Rykert wrote:
> I suspect is mostly because of lack of support or don't have the
> resources/time or health to commit to office. What I haven't seen is a
> change in the numbers no matter how positive the attitudes are of the
> officers and leaders. A few years ago when I tried to bring up the
> perception of a known problem in my mind I was told to be quiet as we
> are making changes and things will improve. That was years ago.. How
> many more years will it take? I still see a continuing decline with
> some insisting it is only a local thing thinking as their
> area/district is growing so therefore no problem. If I don't see a
> change to the positive I have to assume the efforts on everyone's part
> hasn't truly addressed the issues. I fully realize all about
> "/assuming/". So if the true goal is to draw new blood and grow the
> ranks then the efforts have to be shifted to focus the few resources
> the organization does have to focus more efforts to draw the new
> blood. If the advertisers were truly onboard they would be there year
> after year.. Not need further enticements to return to placing an ad.
>
> _None of my comments are meant to infer all the efforts of all parties
> hasn't been commendable in their efforts to address the problem. The
> results are what I still feel need to be addressed. Survey the
> potential wannabes. If no wannabe exist then we are left with what we
> have._
>
> / Del /
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steven Maxwell <mailto:patternrules at yahoo.com>
> *To:* NSRCA Mailing List <mailto:nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 22, 2007 8:40 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome?
> Pleasereview'NSRCAMembers'
>
> Have to agree with John and Mike on this, this adminstation has
> only been in office a few months and nothing happens over night.
> The other thing I always see is people with ideas but never see
> there name on a ballet if people are really want to make a
> difference and they have all the better ways why do we see
> unopposed ballets.
> Steve Maxwell
>
> */mike mueller <mups1953 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> Very well stated JLK. I have been in pattern for a very
> longtime and I can tell you that the leaders we have right now
> are taking us in a positive direction. I have a lot of faith
> in them. It will take some patience but I think there are a
> lot of positive things in place.
> This forum is an open discussion of ideas and thoughts some
> are agreeable some are not. Either way its it important that
> everyone be heard. If there's a new concept that has merit
> then in time the group will adopt it.
> The biggest problem that I see with our sport is the lack of
> younger people getting in. We need new blood ASAP. Mike
>
> */John Konneker <jlkonn at hotmail.com>/* wrote:
>
> If I may.
> As a lot of you know I am the ad manager for the K-Factor.
> It is my goal to bring enough advertisers on board to make
> the K-Factor self
> supporting.
> I believe that goal is achievable.
> I just prepared the invoicing for the July issue and total
> billings, month
> to month, are increasing.
> We have a great bunch of advertisers already that have
> been very supportive
> of the NSRCA.
> Please support them whenever you can.
> I contact potential advertisers all the time.
> If you have any you'd like to suggest please let me know.
> If you have personal contact with any and think you can
> get them interested,
> by all means talk to them.
> Ron Davies is doing a great job as treasurer and reports
> on the NSRCA
> finances every month in his K-Factor column.
> Through these reports you can see it's not just members
> dues that generate
> the operating income of the NSRCA.
> As an aside I flew the Nats this year.
> Derek invited me to the NSRCA board meeting held on
> Tuesday night.
> I had been out of RC since the late '80s and only started
> pattern again last
> year.
> I can't tell you how impressed I was with the officers.
> Everyone, without exception, has the advancement of
> pattern in their hearts.
> Everyone, without exception, was positive in their attitude.
> There were no hidden agendas.
> No "us" vs "them".
> >From Derek on down we have a great bunch!
> JLK
>
>
> >From: "Del K. Rykert"
> >Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List
> >To: "NSRCA Mailing List"
> >Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Sinking ship Syndrome? Please
> >review'NSRCAMembers'
> >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:51:54 -0400
> >
> >I truly hear you message loud and clear John. Do you have
> any further
> >suggestions, as many don't want to look at some of the
> changes that have
> >been proposed? I know it has been discussed on the list
> to degree of
> >making some just deleting post without even reading them.
> Either they don't
> >care or don't want to hear it. Hate to be so sinister to
> assume they want
> >to see the NSRCA fail. I hope.
> >
> > Del
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John Gayer
> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:51 PM
> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Please review 'NSRCAMembers'
> >
> >
> > The attached Chart is based on numbers on the NSRCA
> website and the
> >treasurer's report in the latest K-Factor. If the
> membership continues to
> >reject any thoughts or proposals that might help, I see
> this downward slide
> > continuing. We are currently on the verge of being
> unable to afford
> >producing the K-Factor which is about the only reason to
> stay on.
> >
> > I tried to post this several days ago with an inline
> chart but the size
> >was 4K oversize for the list parameters. It's been
> awaiting approval of the
> >moderator.
> >
> > John Gayer
> > NSRCA 632
> >
> >
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