[NSRCA-discussion] Moving Along, Next Question on Masters

White, Chris chris at ssd.fsi.com
Fri Aug 17 04:33:41 AKDT 2007


Hi Keith,

 

I admire you as a true pattern flyer and competitor and promoter of the
sport.  You are a great contributor to pattern and this column and
usually I pretty much agree with you, but I'm not sure I do this time:-)
(I hope we can still be friends LOL:-))  How's that for lead in????

 

Yes, I agree it those would help with the move to Masters, but is that
more valuable than making the Intermediate to Advanced jump more
tolerable?  At least when moving from Advanced to Masters a persons
skill level is a bit higher.  I believe that Masters is just another
phase of learning and since it is supposed to be a destination class,
why not learn that skill at this time?  Especially since there is no
mandatory move?

 

I guess the real question is "Which class are we having trouble getting
people to move to?   There are plenty of Masters flyers at our local
contests (usually 2-3 times the amount of Advanced pilots)  Masters at
the nats is usually double the number of Advanced.  For my own
experience I moved to Advanced after Nats in 2004 and flew it until July
2005.  I have a bit of sport aerobatic flying and my skills are
developed a little bit more than most new guys.    There isn't a problem
with Masters that I can't blame on myself,  I haven't had the time to
practice like I did for Intermediate and early advanced flying.  I keep
a logbook and flew over 500 flights from August 03 to the same time in
04.  The last couple of years I'm very lucky to get about 70-80 flights
a year.  Now that I'm in the class with the most experienced competition
with so much experience to combat is when I need those 500 flights a
year. (That probably won't happen again until the kids graduate:-))   I
guess what I'm saying is since I'm in a destination class I have plenty
of time to get competitive again....whether it is life's priorities or
skill that is getting in the way.  (The good news is that I'm in a
target rich environment...."OK MAV lets see some of that pilot Sxxx")

 

Respectfully submitted,

Chris White

 

 

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Black
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Moving Along, Next Question on Masters

 

My opinion, increase the difficulty and add inverted exits to Advanced
as it was last year. This provides a very nice preparation for Masters.
As to the jump between the old Intermediate and Advanced, yes I recall
the pucker factor doing the first double Immelmann where I had the
inverted to inverted roll on the bottom. I just did it real high until I
got comfortable. It wasn't long until it was no longer a big deal. 

 

Keith Black

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	From: twtaylor <mailto:twtaylor at ftc-i.net>  

	To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 

	Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM

	Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Moving Along, Next Question on
Masters

	 

	Morning Gentlemen

	 

	After reading many responses and having some private chats with
those I respect their opinions highly I've changed my mind on Masters
having to move up. I no longer think so.

	 

	  This now creates a few new questions in my mind.

	 

	1.	Are we to keep Masters at a level slightly less than FAI
so we can keep those happy that are "Parked" there? 

	 

	2.	Do we make Masters a proper (Building) stepping stone
between  Advance and FAI? 

	 

	Right now I believe the fellows that designed the Advance
schedule did a wonderful job bridging the gap between Int and Advance.

	I think the jump from Advance to Masters is a bit big. Barring
adding a classes between Masters/Advance, which I don't think anyone
wants, how do we do both?

	 

	If we "dumb down" Masters to make the jump from Advance to
Masters flow better on the skills set required then we might very well
bore those that have been in masters for awhile. If we don't do we
relegate those moving up to Masters several years of practice to get
competitive? Maybe this is the answer, make the jump so hard it takes
awhile to learn the skill set, or it just could be a dropping out point
fliers won't bother to try to go beyond. Yeah I know, "If it was easy
even a cavemen could do it"  :-)

	 

	Opinions?

	 

	Pros/Cons

	 

	Tim

	
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