[NSRCA-discussion] Fact............

John Gayer jgghome at comcast.net
Wed Aug 15 16:49:16 AKDT 2007


http://www.modelaircraft.org/events/rulebooks/RC%20Aerobatics.pdf

see section 8 (appropriate?)
John

J N Hiller wrote:

>Where do I find the AMA advancement points info?
>Thanks
>Jim Hiller
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Gene Maurice
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:06 PM
>To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact............
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>George,
>
>I do believe that the AMA points represented in the spread sheet are for the
>current year only. For this to be accurate you would need to know the prior
>4 years data for every competitor.
>
>Jerry,
>
>Same question; does your data go back 4 years and does it include all
>contests a competitor may have attended, i.e. out of district, NATS, etc.?
>
>The converse is that "a particular does not make it universal". I still
>contend that for any statistically based system to work there must be a
>central point that can collect and analyze the data with assurance that it
>is receiving all of the required input. Any gap in the data collection makes
>the statistics unreliable. GI-GO
>
>As has been stated by many, the point system has been made moot because the
>vast majority move up BEFORE they point out.
>
>The POINT I was trying to make about the POINT system is that it's
>POINTless.
>
>Gene Maurice
>gene.mauirce at sgmservice.com
>Plano, Texas
>AMA 3408 NSRCA 877
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>glmiller3 at suddenlink.net
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 1:38 PM
>To: NSRCA Mailing List
>Cc: Jerry Stebbins
>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact............
>
>Gene,
>
>If you check the District 6 website and look at the District championship
>standings, the spreadsheet includes District Point and AMA point totals for
>all participants.
>
>George
>
>---- Jerry Stebbins <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net> wrote:
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>
>>Gene, I respectfully disagree. We keep a running count from all contests
>>    
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>in
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>>our District, and anyone can check and see where they are. Old rule" you
>>cannot make a universal out of a particular"
>>Jerry
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Gene Maurice" <gene.maurice at sgmservice.com>
>>To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:56 PM
>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact............
>>
>>
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>>>No one collects, maintains, manages, administers, accumulates, records,
>>>summarizes, folds, spindles, or mutilates points! PERIOD! The rule, as
>>>stated in the AMA Rulebook, is not only unenforced, it's
>>>      
>>>
>unenforceable!!!
>  
>
>>>At the end of a contest CD's send data to the AMA. These forms include
>>>data
>>>about the contestants including the results of the contest. As of today,
>>>      
>>>
>
>  
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>>>the
>>>AMA does nothing to accumulate that data, per Lisa Johnson,
>>>      
>>>
>Administrative
>  
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>>>Assistant in the AMA Competition Department. No one in the world can
>>>      
>>>
>tell
>  
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>>>you how many points you have.
>>>
>>>The whole system, as it stands today, is an honor system. It is the
>>>competitor's sole responsibility to know how many points he has.
>>>
>>>This in itself seems to be a strong argument for abolishing the rule.
>>>
>>>BTW, IMHO, any other scenario that utilizes the accumulation of
>>>      
>>>
>statistics
>  
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>>>to determine advancement is equally unenforceable.
>>>
>>>Just a thought........................
>>>
>>>Gene Maurice
>>>gene.mauirce at sgmservice.com
>>>Plano, Texas
>>>AMA 3408 NSRCA 877
>>>
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