[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

Thu Apr 26 14:30:28 AKDT 2007

Mike, I misread the question and Tony's answer to what I thought I had 
read--being the wrong question. If he participates at the NATS he can return 
to the District and resume flying as a Sportsman--that is if he wants to--:)
Jerry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at comcast.net>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1


> Really? Where? I'm serious I don't see it anywhere. Maybe it got nailed in
> my spam filter, where did he say you couldn't do it?
>
> I can't find a single rule that says he MUST move up if he flies a higher
> class at the Nats. I'm looking, because it's a loophole if there isn't. i
> have to admit, not one that I'm concerned with at all, because a sportsman
> flying intermediate at the nats then flying out the year in
> sportsman....just isn't an every day occurance. Especially this particular
> situation, we're talking about a kid that wants to fly with his dad at a
> major event. So we thrust him back into intermediate locally? This is D3
> man, the intermediate guys down here could outfly masters pilots in other
> parts of the world. (That's just a fact, these guys are serious!!!)
>
> Anyway, I can't find a rule that specifically states where it cannot be
> done. And I have looked, although not as thoroughly as I would like to.
>
> -Mike
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
>
>> Mike, I believe Tony answered the question differently as to the "rule"
>> Jerry
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at comcast.net>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>
>>
>>> Yeah that's basically it. if all this is about Garrett, I'm failry
>>> certain
>>> unless he trophies, nobody will care. And even then, Blake needs 
>>> somebody
>>> to
>>> whip him =)
>>>
>>> -Mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>
>>>
>>>> So the black and white answer is Yes, a Sportsman pilot can legally
>>>> fly Intermediate class at the Nats then go back and finish out the
>>>> season in Sportsman.  Whether he stays there after the Nats is based
>>>> on personal judgement and / or peer pressure . . . correct?
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone ever estimated how many more pilots would attend the Nats
>>>> if Sportsman class were offered?
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/07, Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Having called most of the flights for our example in question, here's
>>>>> my
>>>>> take.
>>>>>
>>>>> He lost the handle almost every flight. He had a blast and flew
>>>>> relatively
>>>>> fantastic, but got numerous zeroes. I talked him through it and tried
>>>>> my
>>>>> best to keep him calm and focused, but it was obvious he was just not
>>>>> an
>>>>> intermediate pilot yet.  A lot of thing that are supposed to be 
>>>>> learned
>>>>> in
>>>>> sportsman simply weren't there. Oh he had some fantastic manuevers, 
>>>>> but
>>>>> he
>>>>> had a lot of zeroes too, and box management in the wind was.....a
>>>>> struggle
>>>>> to say the least.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the question being "should he have to move up after he gets 
>>>>> home",
>>>>> well
>>>>> the rules say no. This does open an interesting can of worms. I know 
>>>>> we
>>>>> have
>>>>> a couple of sportsman pilots here in this district right now that ARE
>>>>> ready
>>>>> for intermediate.....I doubt they'd trophy at the nats, but they could
>>>>> handle it fairly well....and if they went to the nats, came back and
>>>>> flew
>>>>> out sportsman, that could get interesting.
>>>>>
>>>>> However with that being said, these guys are the type that are more
>>>>> likely
>>>>> to stay with pattern in the long run, so it makes you wonder.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
>>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:10 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Wayne,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This I have to disagree with.  I think the NATS is a great
>>>>> > experience,
>>>>> > even
>>>>> > if you are just going for fun.  There are a great number of guys who
>>>>> > go
>>>>> > just
>>>>> > to fly for fun, knowing they will not be competitive.  A good friend
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > mine
>>>>> > who was a Sportsman pilot last year went to the NATS with me and 
>>>>> > flew
>>>>> > Intermediate.  He finished about as low as he could finish, but had
>>>>> > more
>>>>> > fun
>>>>> > than about anyone I know.  It also significantly helped him for the
>>>>> > rest
>>>>> > of
>>>>> > the year in sportsman.  He no longer was nervous in front of judges
>>>>> > and
>>>>> > such. He has moved up to Intermediate this year, but he had a lot of
>>>>> > fun
>>>>> > doing it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Arch
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> > wgalligan
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:47 AM
>>>>> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think if the pilot is good enough to fly Intermediate at the NATs
>>>>> > level
>>>>> > he
>>>>> >
>>>>> > should stay in that class.
>>>>> > .02 worth...
>>>>> >
>>>>> > WG
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> > From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at gmail.com>
>>>>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:22 AM
>>>>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Does Rule 8.1.1 apply to the Nats?  For instance, a Sportsman pilot
>>>>> >> goes to the Nats and flies in Intermediate because Sportsman is not
>>>>> >> offered.  Can said pilot go back to Sportsman after the Nats?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Keith Hoard
>>>>> >> Collierville, TN
>>>>> >> khoard at gmail.com
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>>>> Collierville, TN
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