[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

Thu Apr 26 12:09:51 AKDT 2007

Really? Where? I'm serious I don't see it anywhere. Maybe it got nailed in 
my spam filter, where did he say you couldn't do it?

I can't find a single rule that says he MUST move up if he flies a higher 
class at the Nats. I'm looking, because it's a loophole if there isn't. i 
have to admit, not one that I'm concerned with at all, because a sportsman 
flying intermediate at the nats then flying out the year in 
sportsman....just isn't an every day occurance. Especially this particular 
situation, we're talking about a kid that wants to fly with his dad at a 
major event. So we thrust him back into intermediate locally? This is D3 
man, the intermediate guys down here could outfly masters pilots in other 
parts of the world. (That's just a fact, these guys are serious!!!)

Anyway, I can't find a rule that specifically states where it cannot be 
done. And I have looked, although not as thoroughly as I would like to.

-Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Stebbins" <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net>
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

> Mike, I believe Tony answered the question differently as to the "rule"
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock at comcast.net>
> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
>
>> Yeah that's basically it. if all this is about Garrett, I'm failry 
>> certain
>> unless he trophies, nobody will care. And even then, Blake needs somebody
>> to
>> whip him =)
>>
>> -Mike
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at gmail.com>
>> To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>
>>
>>> So the black and white answer is Yes, a Sportsman pilot can legally
>>> fly Intermediate class at the Nats then go back and finish out the
>>> season in Sportsman.  Whether he stays there after the Nats is based
>>> on personal judgement and / or peer pressure . . . correct?
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever estimated how many more pilots would attend the Nats
>>> if Sportsman class were offered?
>>>
>>> On 4/25/07, Mike Hester <kerlock at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Having called most of the flights for our example in question, here's 
>>>> my
>>>> take.
>>>>
>>>> He lost the handle almost every flight. He had a blast and flew
>>>> relatively
>>>> fantastic, but got numerous zeroes. I talked him through it and tried 
>>>> my
>>>> best to keep him calm and focused, but it was obvious he was just not 
>>>> an
>>>> intermediate pilot yet.  A lot of thing that are supposed to be learned
>>>> in
>>>> sportsman simply weren't there. Oh he had some fantastic manuevers, but
>>>> he
>>>> had a lot of zeroes too, and box management in the wind was.....a
>>>> struggle
>>>> to say the least.
>>>>
>>>> With the question being "should he have to move up after he gets home",
>>>> well
>>>> the rules say no. This does open an interesting can of worms. I know we
>>>> have
>>>> a couple of sportsman pilots here in this district right now that ARE
>>>> ready
>>>> for intermediate.....I doubt they'd trophy at the nats, but they could
>>>> handle it fairly well....and if they went to the nats, came back and
>>>> flew
>>>> out sportsman, that could get interesting.
>>>>
>>>> However with that being said, these guys are the type that are more
>>>> likely
>>>> to stay with pattern in the long run, so it makes you wonder.
>>>>
>>>> -Mike
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Archie Stafford" <rcpattern at stx.rr.com>
>>>> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Wayne,
>>>> >
>>>> > This I have to disagree with.  I think the NATS is a great 
>>>> > experience,
>>>> > even
>>>> > if you are just going for fun.  There are a great number of guys who
>>>> > go
>>>> > just
>>>> > to fly for fun, knowing they will not be competitive.  A good friend
>>>> > of
>>>> > mine
>>>> > who was a Sportsman pilot last year went to the NATS with me and flew
>>>> > Intermediate.  He finished about as low as he could finish, but had
>>>> > more
>>>> > fun
>>>> > than about anyone I know.  It also significantly helped him for the
>>>> > rest
>>>> > of
>>>> > the year in sportsman.  He no longer was nervous in front of judges
>>>> > and
>>>> > such. He has moved up to Intermediate this year, but he had a lot of
>>>> > fun
>>>> > doing it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Arch
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
>>>> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> > wgalligan
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:47 AM
>>>> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
>>>> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>> >
>>>> > I think if the pilot is good enough to fly Intermediate at the NATs
>>>> > level
>>>> > he
>>>> >
>>>> > should stay in that class.
>>>> > .02 worth...
>>>> >
>>>> > WG
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>> > From: "Keith Hoard" <khoard at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:22 AM
>>>> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Does Rule 8.1.1 apply to the Nats?  For instance, a Sportsman pilot
>>>> >> goes to the Nats and flies in Intermediate because Sportsman is not
>>>> >> offered.  Can said pilot go back to Sportsman after the Nats?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Keith Hoard
>>>> >> Collierville, TN
>>>> >> khoard at gmail.com
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