[NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.

Thu Apr 26 11:35:50 AKDT 2007

You can be sure that the entry fee would have to increase.  NSRCA would have
to take care of everything.  Right now, AMA takes $40 to handle the
paperwork of the NATS.  That leaves about $60 for NSRCA to run the NATS.
Keep in mind that AMA supplies the site and all the equipment (tents,
chairs, sound systems, noise test equipment, etc).  Some of that equipment
MAY still be available to NSRCA, if it is not required to run other events
still at the Muncie site during the same time frame.  Any other costs would
be born by NSRCA.  The end result would very likely be an increase in the
entry fee.

Tony Stillman, President

Radio South

3702 N. Pace Blvd

Pensacola, FL 32505

1-800-962-7802

www.radiosouthrc.com

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Courtney,
Gary Ray
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:01 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.

Munie is as close to the population center of the US. as the AMA could get.
That is why I have been told AMA set up there tent there.Moving the nats
around the country would probably cost the NSRCA some $$$. Do we need that
drain on our bank account? NATS entry fee $100 moving the NATS around would
probably increase that amount to! That being said I will go to the NATS no
matter what out of the way place that can be found if at all possible.

gary

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From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Derek
Koopowitz
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:39 PM
To: NSRCA Mailing List
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.

The person that headed that committee was Don Atwood, if I recall.  He is no
longer involved, however, Lance Van Nostrand was involved in that committee
as well.  I'll check with Lance to see where we stand.

On 4/26/07, Jerry Stebbins <JAStebbins at worldnet.att.net> wrote: 

Tony, Lamar appointed someone to head up a NSRCA review of what was required
for an "off- Muncie site" Pattern NATS, and a survey of potential sites, at 
least a year ago. Wonder whatever came of that action. Derek, do you know
what has been done, and where we are?
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Stillman" < <mailto:tony at radiosouthrc.com>
tony at radiosouthrc.com>
To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats. 

> Actually, several SIGS, including NSRCA have expressed interest in moving
> their portion (pattern) of the NATS to another venue every other year or
> so.
> AMA EC is pretty much in favor of allowing the SIGS to do that, and that 
> is
> also part of the discussions of my committee.  AMA would still handle the
> paperwork part, but the SIG would be responsible for all the rest.
>
> Tony Stillman, President
> Radio South 
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd
> Pensacola, FL 32505
> 1-800-962-7802
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of twtaylor
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:59 PM 
> To: 'NSRCA Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.
>
> Logistics 2,000 miles away from your home base is a nightmare. Holding it
> in
> one place allows the "Home base" to have everything needed on hand in an 
> instant. The procedures don't change very much. If we moved the Nats
> around
> we'd have to "re-invent the wheel" every year.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org ] On Behalf Of Pat Hewitt
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:36 PM
> To: NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.
>
> I know there must be a good reason that the Nats are always held in Muncy 
> but
> WHY. If nothing else take it on the road every other year.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pat Hewitt
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: 11:01 AM CDT, 04/26/2007
> From: "Tony Stillman" <tony at radiosouthrc.com>
> To: "'NSRCA Mailing List'" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org >
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
> This is an interesting discussion.  I am currently the Chairman of the
> NATS
> review committee, as established by AMA President Dave Brown.  We are 
> currently reviewing all aspects of the NATS, as well as looking to what
> changes need to be made to ensure that the future of the NATS is
> preserved.
> Lots of ideas have been floated, and I'm sure changes will be made.  While

> at the Ocala contest, I asked for input from any of the pilots there as to
> what they thought about the NATS.  Didn't get the first bit of info from
> anyone. maybe just too busy to talk..
> 
>
>
> The rules that govern what events are flown at the NATS are pretty much
> influenced by rules proposals and what the SIGS want done.  The NSRCA
> pretty
> much runs the NATS.  If the NSRCA wants to include Sportsman, they can 
> probably do that.  The idea about that class was that it is an entry level
> class, and many pilots would move up before getting to the end of the
> season.  That is not usually the case in the rest of the classes. 
>
>
>
> How about the idea of making the NATS into an event you have to qualify
> for?
> Take figure skating for example.  You can't just walk up to the US
> National
> Figure Skating Championships and plop down your skates and some money and 
> compete.. You have to QUALIFY!  That means you compete locally and
> regionally to get the points to qualify to compete in the Championships.
> It
> would sure make everyone that wanted to go to the NATS work a little 
> harder
> to attend local and regional events, that's for sure!  We could also do
> the
> contest is a shorter amount of time, because we would probably limit the
> contestants to around 15-20 per class. 
>
>
>
> Now don't get all worried that this is gonna happen, it is just one way of
> looking at how a NATS MIGHT be run..
>
>
>
> Tony Stillman, President
> 
> Radio South
>
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd
>
> Pensacola, FL 32505
>
> 1-800-962-7802
>
> www.radiosouthrc.com
>
>
> 
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> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org ] On Behalf Of
> Rcmaster199 at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:09 AM
> To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1
>
>
>
> This is a beef to be taken up with the AMA Contest Board and mostly with
> AMA
> Nats Management. Airing your laundry on this list does no good to anybody 
> and appears to be aggravating you.
>
>
>
> For the record, AMA is not excluding YOU. You may fly as you wish but you
> would have to fly at a higher level. If you can't fly at the higher level,

> you may want to reconsider what you wish for. For that matter, there are
> no
> other qualifications I know of in any other event flown at the National
> Championship. You may pay your entry fee and enter any other event as 
> well.
> Point is AMA is not excluding YOU, so don't take it personally.
>
>
>
> THE National Championship has its set of rules that we all have to abide
> by.
> As the old saying goes, "You can please some people most of the time....."

> In this case, the Nats rules ".....please most people most of the
> time...."
>
>
>
> MattK
>
>
>
> In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:37:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> shineyobject at gmail.com writes:
>
> Keith - I'm so chilled you'd think I was a watermelon on ice, but I hope
> my
> point is not lost amid my sarcasm. It simply isn't right to exclude equal 
> paying, equal participating members from any activity sponsored by AMA.
>
>
>
>
>
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