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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can be sure that the entry fee would
have to increase. NSRCA would have to take care of everything.
Right now, AMA takes $40 to handle the paperwork of the NATS. That leaves
about $60 for NSRCA to run the NATS. Keep in mind that AMA supplies the
site and all the equipment (tents, chairs, sound systems, noise test equipment,
etc). Some of that equipment MAY still be available to NSRCA, if it is
not required to run other events still at the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City> site during the same time frame.
Any other costs would be born by NSRCA… The end result would very
likely be an increase in the entry fee.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Tony Stillman, President<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Courtney, Gary Ray<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 26, 2007
2:01 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Roaming Nats.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Munie is as close to the population
center of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region>.
as the AMA could get. That is why I have been told AMA set up there
tent there.Moving the nats around the country would probably cost the NSRCA
some $$$. Do we need that drain on our bank account? NATS entry fee $100 moving
the NATS around would probably increase that amount to! That being said I will
go to the NATS no matter what out of the way place that can be found if at all
possible.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Derek Koopowitz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 26, 2007
1:39 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA
Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Roaming Nats.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The person that headed
that committee was Don Atwood, if I recall. He is no longer involved,
however, Lance Van Nostrand was involved in that committee as well. I'll
check with Lance to see where we stand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 4/26/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Jerry
Stebbins</span></b> <<a href="mailto:JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net">JAStebbins@worldnet.att.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Tony, Lamar appointed someone to head up a NSRCA review of what was
required<br>
for an "off- <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Muncie</st1:place></st1:City>
site" Pattern NATS, and a survey of potential sites, at <br>
least a year ago. Wonder whatever came of that action. Derek, do you know<br>
what has been done, and where we are?<br>
Jerry<br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Tony Stillman" <<a href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">
tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'"
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 1:07 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats. <br>
<br>
<br>
> Actually, several SIGS, including NSRCA have expressed interest in moving<br>
> their portion (pattern) of the NATS to another venue every other year or<br>
> so.<br>
> AMA EC is pretty much in favor of allowing the SIGS to do that, and that <br>
> is<br>
> also part of the discussions of my committee. AMA would still
handle the<br>
> paperwork part, but the SIG would be responsible for all the rest.<br>
><br>
> Tony Stillman, President<br>
> Radio South <br>
> 3702 N. Pace Blvd<br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pensacola</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">FL</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">32505</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
> 1-800-962-7802<br>
> <a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
On Behalf Of twtaylor<br>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:59 PM <br>
> To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.<br>
><br>
> Logistics 2,000 miles away from your home base is a nightmare. Holding it<br>
> in<br>
> one place allows the "Home base" to have everything needed on
hand in an <br>
> instant. The procedures don't change very much. If we moved the Nats<br>
> around<br>
> we'd have to "re-invent the wheel" every year.<br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
] On Behalf Of Pat Hewitt<br>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 12:36 PM<br>
> To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName><br>
> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Roaming Nats.<br>
><br>
> I know there must be a good reason that the Nats are always held in Muncy <br>
> but<br>
> WHY. If nothing else take it on the road every other year.<br>
><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
> Pat Hewitt<br>
><br>
> ------ Original Message ------<br>
> Received: 11:01 AM CDT, 04/26/2007<br>
> From: "Tony Stillman" <<a href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</a>><br>
> To: "'<st1:PersonName w:st="on">NSRCA Mailing List</st1:PersonName>'"
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<br>
><br>
> This is an interesting discussion. I am currently the Chairman
of the<br>
> NATS<br>
> review committee, as established by AMA President Dave
Brown. We are <br>
> currently reviewing all aspects of the NATS, as well as looking to what<br>
> changes need to be made to ensure that the future of the NATS is<br>
> preserved.<br>
> Lots of ideas have been floated, and I'm sure changes will be
made. While <br>
> at the <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ocala</st1:place></st1:City>
contest, I asked for input from any of the pilots there as to<br>
> what they thought about the NATS. Didn't get the first bit of
info from<br>
> anyone. maybe just too busy to talk..<br>
> <br>
><br>
><br>
> The rules that govern what events are flown at the NATS are pretty much<br>
> influenced by rules proposals and what the SIGS want done. The
NSRCA<br>
> pretty<br>
> much runs the NATS. If the NSRCA wants to include Sportsman,
they can <br>
> probably do that. The idea about that class was that it is an
entry level<br>
> class, and many pilots would move up before getting to the end of the<br>
> season. That is not usually the case in the rest of the
classes. <br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> How about the idea of making the NATS into an event you have to qualify<br>
> for?<br>
> Take figure skating for example. You can't just walk up to the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
> National<br>
> Figure Skating Championships and plop down your skates and some money and <br>
> compete.. You have to QUALIFY! That means you compete locally
and<br>
> regionally to get the points to qualify to compete in the Championships.<br>
> It<br>
> would sure make everyone that wanted to go to the NATS work a little <br>
> harder<br>
> to attend local and regional events, that's for sure! We could
also do<br>
> the<br>
> contest is a shorter amount of time, because we would probably limit the<br>
> contestants to around 15-20 per class. <br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Now don't get all worried that this is gonna happen, it is just one way of<br>
> looking at how a NATS MIGHT be run..<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Tony Stillman, President<br>
> <br>
> Radio South<br>
><br>
> <st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">3702 N. Pace Blvd</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
><br>
> <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Pensacola</st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">FL</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">32505</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><br>
><br>
> 1-800-962-7802<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> <br>
> _____<br>
><br>
> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
> <a href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</a><br>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:09 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> This is a beef to be taken up with the AMA Contest Board and mostly with<br>
> AMA<br>
> Nats Management. Airing your laundry on this list does no good to anybody <br>
> and appears to be aggravating you.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> For the record, AMA is not excluding YOU. You may fly as you wish but you<br>
> would have to fly at a higher level. If you can't fly at the higher level,
<br>
> you may want to reconsider what you wish for. For that matter, there are<br>
> no<br>
> other qualifications I know of in any other event flown at the National<br>
> Championship. You may pay your entry fee and enter any other event as <br>
> well.<br>
> Point is AMA is not excluding YOU, so don't take it personally.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> THE National Championship has its set of rules that we all have to abide<br>
> by.<br>
> As the old saying goes, "You can please some people most of the
time....." <br>
> In this case, the Nats rules ".....please most people most of the<br>
> time...."<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> MattK<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> In a message dated 4/26/2007 6:37:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, <br>
> <a href="mailto:shineyobject@gmail.com">shineyobject@gmail.com</a> writes:<br>
><br>
> Keith - I'm so chilled you'd think I was a watermelon on ice, but I hope<br>
> my<br>
> point is not lost amid my sarcasm. It simply isn't right to exclude equal <br>
> paying, equal participating members from any activity sponsored by AMA.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> _____<br>
><br>
> See what's free at AOL.com <<a
href="http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503">
http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503</a>><br>
> .<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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