[NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1

[John Ferrell]

Adding Sportsman to the Nats is do able but all of the details should be considered up front.

We are currently using all of the sites available at the AMA complex. Most likely adding a class would have to be at Site 4 and use the existing scoring and control staff. They could tell us if that is an option. It would require another set of pins for the Class. The setup leading into the Nats would be more complicated. There would likely be some very "inexperienced" pilots competing. It would likely require judges from the classes above and their skill level is not generally high enough to serve in the same capacity for the higher classes. 

The real Big Question in my mind is how many contestants would be willing to spend the price of a Nats for a total of 25 minutes of flying?  

Would it serve the goals of the AMA, NSRCA and the contestant? 

It can be done but once a CD goes to the effort of putting together a contest and no one shows up, he is reluctant to repeat the exercise. 

It appears to me the need for a class is doubtful when it attracts less than about 20 contestants. 

It is too late for consideration this year and hopefully the Sportsman class moves up pretty quick. 

John Ferrell    W8CCW
"Life is easier if you learn to plow 
       around the stumps"
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Robinson 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rule 8.1.1


  Matt - at least you make a valid point about time and making room for other events etc. But, WHO decided Sportsman Class was less important? I pay my dues just like everybody else! It is my dues, in part, that helps put the NATS on to begin with. Some say 'intent' is an issue. OK, I intend not participate in the NATS. I should get my 'not intended' portion of my dues back from AMA. 
  Some things are just wrong. Just because 'it is written' or 'the intention was'  does not make exclusion of the Sportsman class at NATS the  right.
  And, that's all I got to say about that. 
  Peace. 


  On 4/25/07, Rcmaster199 at aol.com <Rcmaster199 at aol.com> wrote: 
    It's a matter of time allocation. Trying to get some 700 flights in during the time available is no trivial task. Ask any Nats Event Director near you.

    I would love to see our time increased by 2 days and Sportsman Class allowed....but that ain't gonna happen at an AMA Nats. AMA puts on a great deal of other events, many of which require the same site. The allotted time is divided as appropriate 

    NSRCA has put on it's own NATS (in lieu of and much to the chagrin of AMA) a bunch of year ago now. To do it again requires a whole lot of motivation, volunteers and money. It's doable but it's no trivial matter either 

    MattK
    In a message dated 4/25/2007 8:45:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, shineyobject at gmail.com writes:
      Don't worry about it Keith, we Sportman are just to freaking dangerous to be around!


      On 4/25/07, Keith Hoard < mailto:khoard at gmail.com> wrote: 
        Has anyone ever estimated how many more people would attend the Nats
        if Sportsman class was offered?

        On 4/25/07, Mike Robinson < shineyobject at gmail.com> wrote:
        > With as much respect as I can muster...Translation is...
        > "The governing body don't think Sportsmen are good enough to fly the NATS". 
        > Safety?...gimme a break!
        > And we wonder why people think we aerobatic pilots are snobs! Not only are
        > we snobs, we are often full of sh%@!
        >
        >
        >
        > On 4/25/07, Keith Hoard < khoard at gmail.com> wrote:
        > >
        > > You weren't at the GMA contest last weekend. . .
        > >
        > > . .  .<snip>. .  Also, I doubt that a
        > > > true Sportsman would be very comfortable flying at the Intermediate 
        > level at
        > > > the NATS.
        > > . . .<snip>. .
        > > _______________________________________________
        > 





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