[NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor Maneuver description and judging

[wgalligan]

The rolls just need to be in the center of the line segment of each 45 line. 
The whole maneuver including line segments must be on center.  The half 
rolls will not necessarily intersect at exactly center pole or on top of 
each other, but the lines of the 45 cross or intersect at center.   The 1/8 
push radius and looping segment have equal radius.

>From what I have learned...

Wayne


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Romano" <anthonyr105 at hotmail.com>
To: <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor Maneuver description and judging


> Not having a Kfactor in front of me I can't attest for the drawings
> published. However, I did generate the originals in Autocad and can attest
> for the discussion.
> If you picture being at the top of the box and making your initial push 
> very
> close to center it would be easy to draw lines the have their centers well
> below their intersection point. Like wise a push far from the middle of 
> the
> box would result in lines with their centers above their intersection 
> point
> as you mentioned.
> This is the purpose of the discussion. The rolls do not need to fall on 
> the
> center pole.
>
> Anthony
>
>
>>From: "Fred Huber" <fhhuber at clearwire.net>
>>Reply-To: NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>To: "NSRCA Mailing List" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
>>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] K-Factor Maneuver description and judging
>>Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2007 15:12:52 -0500
>>
>>OK... The K-Factor just arrived.
>>
>>Looking at page 8, discussion of the Reverse Golf Ball
>>
>>The example second maneuver I completely disagree about his evaluation,
>>because.. the picture shows the rolls WAY off center of the 45 deg
>>segments.  The first roll ends and the 3/4 loop is immediate.  There is a
>>defined straiht line before the indicated location of the first roll . 
>>The
>>second roll begins with no discernable straight line preceeding, and there
>>is a significant straight afterward.
>>
>>Assuming the rest of the maneuver is perfect, its got at least 2 points of
>>downgrade...
>>
>>Essentially, the descussion he wrote does not match the picture presented.
>>
>>I don't think you can do the maneuver and have the rolls centered on the
>>45's without them being ABOVE or ON the crossover.
>>
>>Check the geometry of the maneuver.  In order for the rolls to be below 
>>the
>>crossover and centered on the 45, the roll rate would essentially have to
>>be instantaneous, or you have to have no straight line before or after the
>>roll.
>>
>>If he had used a drawing with exagerated long 45's and the rolls centered
>>on them, THEN it would easily put the rolls well above the crossover with
>>no problem, and no downgrade.
>
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