[NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction

[Pat Hewitt]

Ed,

Now would rather look at a UGLY rich girl or a beautiful poor girl now don't
take that wrong. The fact is until you are judged by the best you will most
likely be scored better by looking GOOOOOOOOOOOD not being GOOD not wright but
that is the fact.

Pat H.
Kansas



------ Original Message ------
Received: 09:49 PM CDT, 09/29/2006
From: Ed Deaver <divesplat at yahoo.com>
To: patternrules at earthlink.net,        NSRCA Mailing List
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction

Good idea.  Hadn't thought about that.
   
  However, we're missing the question here.  Which will, in reality score
better??  The true wind corrected manuever or the one off a little but not as
ugly.  You stated Don was a little surprised, which kinda is my point.  I
think the technically poorer will score higher because the technically correct
one is "Ugly"
   
  Ed

Steven Maxwell <patternrules at earthlink.net> wrote:
         Ed not sure how this applies to this maneuver but I have with both
glow and electric but more on the electric with a 22X12 prop, I find adding
power at time that lots of people won't helps alot , mainly down line or going
horizontal like the 3/4 8 in P-07, many times in the hourglass in center. An
article Don Szczur done a few years ago where he talked about flying the TOC
on a windy day and flew a very good flight with wind corrections found his
score not what he expected and the next flight just increased his spedd to
help make wind corrections less and got a much better score. 
   I haven't tried and am not the best but would be worth a try at adding
power just as the plane is coming over the stall into down line. Yes the drift
on the downline souldn't be downgraded, but the if the upline is not corrected
right then it should be downgraded.
   I'm not a top rated judge or flier so take this with a grain of salt. 
   
    Steven Maxwell
  
  
   


   
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ed Deaver 
  To: NSRCA Mailing List
  Sent: 9/29/2006 9:13:11 PM 
  Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Wind correction
  

  Hey everyone.  While the season is winding down, Don Ramsey and I had an
interesting discussion this past weekend.  Am wondering what the general
consensus is.
   
  First, let me state, judges are human and I understand that.  Also, many
judges don't know the exact wording of many rules, I understant that also.
   
  Soooo
   
  Will a pilot score higher if they follow the letter of the law and wind
correct perfectly, but fly an ugly manuever, or wind correct a little and let
the plane look "prettier" in a manuever?????
   
  Lets use the first maneuver in the Master's sequence after entering the box.
 Stall turn 1 1/4 rolls up, 3/4 rolls down exit inverted.  On a strong wind
day, not pulling to vertical to maintain the line doesn't look to bad (we
expect that) the 1 1/4 rolls in centered, looking good, appropriate rudder is
given to maintain a straight vertical line (again expected and usually doesn't
require much as we are at full throttle), the stall goes off without a hitch,
but do to lack of airspeed we cant the fuse and hold rudder into the wind
letting the fuse lean at a 45degree angle to maintain a straight line (this is
the part I'm curious about) until the 3/4 roll and using a little down
elevator to hold the line after the roll (again expected but not ugly)
  Everything about this manuever is done and doesn't detract from the overall
appearance of the manuever except the down line after the stall, which is
simply "UGLY"
   
  Just curious what everyone says.  Again, I know what the rules say, and am
not interested in a rule book interpretation, but what do you think about
scoring better vs worse???
   
  Thanx
   
  ed
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