[NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up. Where's thebeef?

White, Chris chris at ssd.fsi.com
Thu Sep 28 07:01:10 AKDT 2006


Good discussion and no doubt that If I were going to fly a contest with
Jason or someone of that caliber...I'd be there and would promote it
heavily.  I can sure sympathize with their contest demands though.... 

Not meaning to change the subject, assuming it is still growing
pattern....  Has anyone got any stats on the effectivity of the pattern
primers?   I know of some new guys who've come into it this way.  

 

Chris

 

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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Mike
Hester
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up. Where's
thebeef?

 

I like the idea of "qualifying" by flying at least 3 contests prior to
the team trials. Didn't we used to do this? However, as has been stated,
there are other factors.

 

Somebody mentioned Jason, he is an exception. But has been for years. he
not only competes locally, but is also active on the lists and forums,
very helpful, usually not arguementative, and you don't get the feeling
that his comments are tainted by sponsorship. Also, he's an absolute
riot to be around at contests. 

 

Now here's one huge problem, let's take right now for instance. Take any
local pattern contest, what's the prize for 1st place? Usually a piece
of wood and a "you da man!" What's the top prize for the Don Lowe
masters? A pretty good paycheck. So, other things may take priority.

 

Keep in mind these guys are playing a different game than most of us.
There's money involved, and they're playing for keeps. Anywhere there's
competition, there's going to be money involved. It's just a question of
degree.

 

On the sponsorship stickers....c'mon man, I had stickers on my plane
when I wasn't sponsored. I liked the idea of advertising and supporting
a company/product I really liked, or had treated me exceptionally well.
The only issue I've ever had with sponsorships is that in certain cases,
you have to make sure the sponsored person is telling you the WHOLE
truth, and giving the right advise to the right person. An FAI pilot
telling a sportsman guy how to equip and set up his plane is cool at
first glance, but if the sportsman guy flies the exact same set up at
the FAI guy, he may be in way over his head. The sequences require
different things. In FAI performance is the #1 consideration, in
sportsman reliability is much more important.

 

Just adding some stirring, this one ain't boiling yet =)

 

-Mike

 

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: mike mueller <mailto:mups1953 at yahoo.com>  

	To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org 

	Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:03 AM

	Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] OK it's time to stir things up.
Where's the beef?

	 

	 I have an observation that I've made that disturbes me. I don't
think that we are getting enough of the top notch or team worthy flyers
participating on a local level. 

	 I think that in the future the team trials need to be revamped
so that a flyer wanting to make the team would be required to fly in at
least 3 to 5 local contests per year.

	 Here's why I think this is important. We need the top names in
our sport to be part of the sport from a leadership standpoint. Imagine
a QQ showing up to fly against Andrew at a local contest. It would be
much more exciting to watch and it would therefore promote more
interest. If we continue on the path we are going interest in pattern
will continue to slide.

	 In the 70's when the team selection was known as the Masters
you had to fly your way into the contest by accumulating points on the
local level. It was exciting. Were totally missing the boat with our
present system.

	 So here's the deal. Support the real pattern flyers who make
the effort to support us and we will all be better off. Oh and for what
it's worth I think we would be better off all around if we didn't allow
any stickers or blatant advertising of any products in our sport. Let's
get back to the flyers who do it on there own without all the
sponsorships.

	 All this is just what I've seen in the last 6 years of flying
after a 15 year absence for the hobby.  TIA for letting me vent and as
my budddy Bobby Satalino would say "Have a nice day"!        Mike
Mueller

	
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